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Old 01-31-2008, 02:59 PM   #31
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I've carried a .45 for many years. For a while it was my 1911 Combat Commander, but changed that to a Glock 30 for a number of reasons. I'm currently in the market for an XD45, but funds are making that difficult. I just like the feel and confidence with a .45.
To go in another direction, however, whenever I take a long trip on my Harley, I also carry a Walther PPK in .380 in a shoulder hoster.
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Old 02-01-2008, 07:22 AM   #32
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I know this is just going to stir up the old debate but as for the PPK you are far better with a 7.65mm, better round, low recoil, more accurate, one extra in the magazine, and less stress on a small auto. Walthers have a history of cracks on the slide and frame with the 9mm short. It was designed for the 7.65mm and is the benchmark of the small semi-automatic (although personally I prefer the PP, but no matter).

To the case in point on the odd occasion I travel requiring a side arm I carry a 9mm para due to ammunition availability. But I do love my Gold Cup.
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Old 02-01-2008, 05:17 PM   #33
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No debate is necessary. European police departments had been using .32 ACP (7.65) successfully for many years.
However, the reason I have this one is that it was such a great deal that I couldn't pass it up. I did just obtain a Llama Airlite in 7.65 (small 1911 clone) that I'm really anxious to try out.
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Old 02-01-2008, 06:16 PM   #34
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I once was fortunate enough to buy a Walther PPKS in 7.65mm at the Dallas Gunshow a few years ago, I bitterly regret trading it off as I have no chance of replacing it.........
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Old 02-09-2008, 08:55 PM   #35
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for concealed carry, I carry a S&M M&P .400 cal compact.
smaller & more pop then the 9mm, but not as large as the .45.
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Old 02-17-2008, 10:00 AM   #36
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Whichever someone shoots best is my opinion, but .32, .25 and .22 I do not find to be very accepted concealed carry calibers. .380 at a minimum.
The .380 is a poor choice for self-defense also.

9mm with jacketed hollow points is the minimum.
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Old 02-17-2008, 10:08 AM   #37
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But the 9mm Para is a combat proven round, too, and more people have been killed with it that 45ACP. It is probably the longest used military handgun cartridge in the world.
Simply because so many nations and people have used the 9mm as compared to the .45.

The .38 Special has killed more people than the .45 also. It doesn't make it as good a man stopper.

On a per capita basis, the .45 is a far more effective man stopper than both the 9mm and .38.
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Old 02-20-2008, 07:36 PM   #38
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Choices in calibers, and pistols, have changed since we had the two primary choices of the .45 acp and 9mm. The .40 S&W and 357 sig have changed the course of choices, as are the pistols which chamber these cartridges.

If it's stopping power, take a look at the 135 gr, Corbon in .40 S&W or the Georgia Arms 125 gr. Gold Dot 357 sig cartridges. The Corbon .40 S&W is rated at 1300 fps, while the G.A. Gold Dot 357 sig is rated at 1400 fps.

Taking nothing away from the .45 acp, one of my own favorite cartridges, the Georgia Arms +P 185 gr. Gold Dot is rated at 1100 fps.
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Old 02-22-2008, 08:33 PM   #39
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On a per capita basis, the .45 is a far more effective man stopper than both the 9mm and .38.
Please explain how you came to this conclusion...
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Old 02-26-2008, 12:21 AM   #40
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I hope that if I ever have to use my gun in a self defense situation, that the 9mm will be enough.

Our local PD issues 9mm, so it should be fine.
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