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indyfan 02-15-2011 07:31 PM

Which .45 should the Marines adopt and why?
 
There's been news circulating that the U.S. Marines may adopt a .45 ACP as their primary issued handgun. (still trying to find a source on this)

I just wanted to hear your opinions on which .45 ACP they should adopt and why?

Many will say the obvious choice would be the 1911, but considering the amount of care and customization a 1911 needs, I think it would be a poor choice in my opinion. I think an H&K USP 45 would be the best choice for the reason being that they are easy to maintain and very reliable in our current desert warfare scenario.


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canebrake 02-15-2011 07:39 PM

Not the 1911 because, "...considering the amount of care and customization a 1911 needs,"??? WTF?

I don't know, the pistol seamed to work pretty good in North Africa and oh yea, it did OK in the Ardennes over the winter of 1944/45.

canebrake 02-15-2011 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by indyfan (Post 446142)
There's been news circulating that the U.S. Marines may adopt a .45 ACP as their primary issued handgun. (still trying to find a source on this)

Time For A New Military Sidearm

indyfan 02-15-2011 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by canebrake (Post 446145)
Not the 1911 because, "...considering the amount of care and customization a 1911 needs,"??? WTF?

I don't know, the pistol seamed to work pretty good in North Africa and oh yea, it did OK in the Ardennes over the winter of 1944/45.


Well you gotta admit, the 1911 isn't a pick up and go gun. I think it's time for a change. I like the 1911, don't get me wrong, but is it something every regular joe can handle? Wouldn't it be good to go with something simplier?

and you can lock this thread, I didn't know we had another one thanks Cane.

canebrake 02-15-2011 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by indyfan (Post 446157)
Well you gotta admit, the 1911 isn't a pick up and go gun. I think it's time for a change. I like the 1911, don't get me wrong, but is it something every regular joe can handle? Wouldn't it be good to go with something simplier?

I "pick up and go" every day with my 1911s.

Let me ask one more time;

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From 1911 to 1985 you don't think there were any "regular joes" in the U.S. Military Service???


"...something simplier?" [sic] What is more simpler than a M1911A1?

NGIB 02-15-2011 08:24 PM

The 1911s reputation did not become "tarnished" until folks tried to turn the 1911 from a great combat handgun to a target pistol that is required to fire "flying ashtrays". I have no doubt that a 1911 built to "combat" specifications would be an extremely reliable and extremely effective sidearm...

dunerunner 02-15-2011 08:29 PM

My 1911 is stock, has never failed, ever. The 1911 I qualified with in the Navy was stock and shot very well. I'm not getting what is so complicated about a single action semi automatic pistol, that the average Joe can't figure out?

orangello 02-15-2011 08:30 PM

Sorry 1911 guys, the time of that steel frame is passing, much like the passing of metal toys (erector sets) in favor of PLASTIC toys (legos). It is time for the plastic-framed .45ACP to step up for the lego generation of soldiers. :p

XDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXD! :D

hawkchucker 02-15-2011 08:31 PM

The problem the 1911 had in the Marines was simple. They were just worn out. They were around decades and rebuilt so many times that they just became soo out of tolerance. Never liked the Beretta and hated it from day one. Loved the capacity, hated the round.

I hope that they do go with the 45 cal, but remember that it will still be a foot race to see what companies would enter into the bidding and meet the contract specs. So expect all companies to try and submit the sample.

NGIB 02-15-2011 08:32 PM

I have no problem if a plastic pistol was selected. I do have a problem when folks say a GI spec 1911 firing ball ammo is not an effective and reliable pistol...


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