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Old 03-05-2009, 09:08 PM   #21
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hello am new to the forum. can any one tell me if a 44mag with a 4 inch barrel kill a black bear. why i ask is i think my wife is getting me one for xmcit's the taurus ultralite.
I did A LOT or research on this subject as I'm backpacking/camping by myself in remote areas for my photography. So protection was my first priority but weight was also a consideration as I trek for miles with a 30-40lb pack. So to drop a bear it comes down to penetration. And high muzzle energy combined with hard cast equal penetration.

So I found that Buffalo Bore's 340gr ++P 44mag ammo has a hard cast flat point and almost 1700 ft/lbs of muzzle energy! That's right up there with the biggest of the big game droppers available, and it shoots out of a relatively lightweight and compact Ruger Redhawk with 4in. barrel. Obviously with the shorter barrel you'll lose a little energy but it's still more than enough to anything I could ever imagine coming across, particularly at close range with you'll need it...

Garrett also makes a 340gr hardcast that has similar specs and also requires a Redhawk or select few other pistols with the structural integrity to handle the blast. And that's the downside, the blast... The hammer put a hole in the back of my hand the first time I shot this ammo out of my 4" Redhawk. And it simply isn't pleasant to shoot. It hurts in fact, unless you have a VERY firm and strong grip. But if there ever comes the time I'll NEED to fire this ammo, I have a feeling I'm going to have a pretty tight grip... And in the meantime I enjoy shooting 44 special out at the range, and throw in a Buffalo Bore every once in a while to amuse my friends at the range. That gun/ammo combo has become the "man test" amongst a few of us that shoot together...

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A .44 Mag will certainly kill a bear. A lesser caliber like a .357 Mag, a .45 and even a .40 will kill a bear with good shot placement. However a .44 Magnum with a 4" barrel will be tough to get good shot placement and espechially with an Ultralite. The .44 Magnum gives a hell of a kick no matter how easy Clint Eastwood made it look in Dirty Harry. I would go with a minimum of a 6" barrel and a steel gun. If the only purpose of this gun is for bear protection I would even go with an 8" barrel and maybe even a bigger cartridge like a .454 Casull, .460 Magnum or even a .500 Magnum. If you think you will use the gun for other reasons like home protection a .44 Magnum with a 6" barrel or even a .357 Magnum and then a steel revolver with a 4" barrel will be easy enough to shoot accurately.

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A .44 Mag will certainly kill a bear. A lesser caliber like a .357 Mag, a .45 and even a .40 will kill a bear with good shot placement. However a .44 Magnum with a 4" barrel will be tough to get good shot placement and espechially with an Ultralite. The .44 Magnum gives a hell of a kick no matter how easy Clint Eastwood made it look in Dirty Harry. I would go with a minimum of a 6" barrel and a steel gun. If the only purpose of this gun is for bear protection I would even go with an 8" barrel and maybe even a bigger cartridge like a .454 Casull, .460 Magnum or even a .500 Magnum. If you think you will use the gun for other reasons like home protection a .44 Magnum with a 6" barrel or even a .357 Magnum and then a steel revolver with a 4" barrel will be easy enough to shoot accurately.
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When I hear magnum and ultra-lite in the same sentence, two things come to mind: pain, and no follow-up shots.

That said, this thread is older than dirt.

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