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Old 05-10-2012, 02:29 AM   #31
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That is very wrong. I know a number of people who are alive today. The reason they are alive is because some one had a firearm. I do not know of anyone who carries a handgun caliber below the .44 Caliber. The old short barreled 97 12 Ga. rides in my jeep every day in the Mtns. A side arm is just that. It is always with you.

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Old 05-10-2012, 06:55 PM   #32
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I agree about the .454Casull. However, an interesting things comes from a close review of the statistics on brown bear attacks. The rate of serious injury and death is unrelated to whether the victim was armed. In other words, the only reliable defense against brown bears is your wits and, in fact, carrying a gun seems to get some people into more trouble than they might otherwise.
Do the statistics take into account the number of people that were not injured or killed because they were able to kill the bear? Some of the people that were injured or killed did not have enough gun or the ability to use it. I see a lot of statements that the 380 is not enough for self defense against people but dont consider that the 44 mag is in the same league with a brown bear. Marginal at best.
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Any of the big magnums can kill a brown bear but will it die before it kills you?

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.41 Magnum is a superb caliber - nearly as powerful as a .44 mag, flatter trajectory, great for hunting hawg, deer, and even black bear. It was originally intended to be used by police, but the recoil generated in the S&W Model 58's and 57's was more than the average street cop wanted to deal with. So it was implemented in guns like Ruger Blackhawks and Redhawks, and Dan Wesson double-action revolvers with 4, 6, and 8-inch interchangeable barrels. I have some of each, and my number 1 favorite gun is my Ruger .41 Blackhawk with 6 1/2 inch barrel. Whenever I go camping, hunting, or hiking it is hanging on my shoulder. Now, with the declining market for .41 mag, factory ammo is becoming too expensive to make any sense. $68.00 for a box of 20 rounds??? Ridiculous. So I load my own ammo for less than a quarter of the cost. But eventually the .41's will fade away, I'm afraid.

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In this respect, High-Cap mag bans were a little helpful...

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Elmer Kieth pushed the .41 Mag. for LEOs.(
Keith wanted the .41mag to be the standard issue law enforcement round. More powerful than the .357, less violent recoil, better second shot acquisition than the .44. But as Kid pointed out, politics and political correctness phased out large caliber wheelguns. I have a SS Redhawk in .41mag. It's a sweet shooter, but unless you load your own, ammo's a bit pricey.
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I have a SS Redhawk in .41mag. It's a sweet shooter...
Ooo, picture please! That's the one "that got away." Stupid brother-in-law -- if he had just not been lying, as usual, about going bear hunting with handguns a like new 7-5/8" (is it?) version for a few hundred dollars woulda been in a gun safe here now.
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Would be a good thread - the one that got away... Hell, some of us, SOBs, have more than one of those stories...

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The .41 Mag is my all time favorite revolver round. I still have my former duty gun, 4" M-657. I also have a 6" blued M-57 and an "S" prefix M-58. I would sell a lot of guns before I would part with my .41's

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