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Old 02-09-2013, 01:59 AM   #51
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You know horniday critical defense rounds in .40 carries more ft lbs and greater fps than the .45? On the other side, the .45 makes a bigger hole
A larger slower moving object will dump its energy faster creating a bigger effect on the object. Smaller and faster will penetrate deeper but could over penetrate. Or so I've been told haha

.45 make a .45 hole Everytime. Stop the pump station, stop the threat.
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A larger slower moving object will dump its energy faster creating a bigger effect on the object. Smaller and faster will penetrate deeper but could over penetrate. Or so I've been told haha

.45 make a .45 hole Everytime. Stop the pump station, stop the threat.
Wouldn't a .40 be more effective when trying to penetrate something like a car door then strike the target though? I'm not dissing the 45, just trying to get opinions on effectiveness. I need ballistics jell! Lol
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Wouldn't a .40 be more effective when trying to penetrate something like a car door then strike the target though? I'm not dissing the 45, just trying to get opinions on effectiveness. I need ballistics jell! Lol
The Right ammo can do that. CorBon DPX has been tested to show great results in this area.
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The Right ammo can do that. CorBon DPX has been tested to show great results in this area.
In a non biased opinion, with the same ammo, wouldn't a .40 perform better for things like heavy clothing or a BG behind cover? I guess that's what I'm getting at
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But the op wants to shoot steel, not people through heavy coats or car doors...45 will knock the sh** out of a plate. Yea, the 1911 can be finicky, but find a good ammo and you are good.

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But the op wants to shoot steel, not people through heavy coats or car doors...45 will knock the sh** out of a plate. Yea, the 1911 can be finicky, but find a good ammo and you are good.
Guess I did derail a little. My bad, just curious
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12+1 rounds of .40 S&W in a 96? Four Zero for sure! LOVE the .40. If Jersey won't let you have that mag THEN get the 7 or 8 + 1 .45 -- that's the only reason to downgrade.

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A larger slower moving object will dump its energy faster creating a bigger effect on the object. Smaller and faster will penetrate deeper but could over penetrate. Or so I've been told haha

.45 make a .45 hole Everytime. Stop the pump station, stop the threat.
This was true 100 years ago when bullets did not expand!!!
Not true now!
'Energy dump' does not exist in terminal ballistics, unless you consider way Hollywood does it!!!
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12+1 rounds of .40 S&W in a 96? Four Zero for sure! LOVE the .40. If Jersey won't let you have that mag THEN get the 7 or 8 + 1 .45 -- that's the only reason to downgrade.
14+1 four zero's here
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Wouldn't a .40 be more effective when trying to penetrate something like a car door then strike the target though? I'm not dissing the 45, just trying to get opinions on effectiveness. I need ballistics jell! Lol
Why would you be shooting trough a car door. The chances of ever having to use your firearm for protection is very small the chances of you needing to shoot trough a car door slimmer again. It woldent be on my list of requirements when choosing a firearm. Go for the best all round caliber that would be 9mm in my opinion. PS and the vast majority of armies and police forces worldwide. Including special forces the British SAS for example.
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