.38 Super - Page 2
Firearm & Gun Forum - FireArmsTalk.com > Handguns > General Handgun Discussion > .38 Super

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-03-2009, 06:31 AM   #11
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 1
Default Some interesting reading

The standard .38 special has a muzzle velocity of around 980 fps with a 110 grain bullet whilst the .38 Super +P can go over 1500 fps with the right loads, ie: a 90 grain JHP will have a muzzle velocity of 1,557 fps delivering a massive 485 ft-lb or 658 Joules of energy.

The maximum pressure level for .38 Super +P is an amazing 36,500 psi. This is actually 500 psi more powerful than the awesome .44 Remington Magnum, which is not exactly underpowered itself, and it makes the .38 Super +P the highest pressure pistol cartridges in the world today for its caliber. Just to compare to a real heavy duty high power cartridge, the megga powerful .454 Casull Magnum produces a collosal 65,000 psi, so the .38 super is over half the power which is monumental for this standard sized round.

This is why the F.B.I and C.I.A soon adopted the .38 Super +P into its arsenal, as it was a real 'man stopper' even the criminals who took to wearing the early bullet-proof vests were no match for the power of the .38 Super +P that could punch a whole straight through the vest, killing the occupant inside at 50 yards away.

In the 1930's gangsters, bank robbers and armed fugitives such as John Dillinger were using automobiles during their hold ups and also for the getaway from the crime scene. It was found that the standard issue .38, .38 special or even .45 lacked the velocity needed to propel the bullet adequately through a car door whilst retaining enough energy to mortally injure the occupants at distances over 50 yards.

In today's high tech world the .38 Super has been equalled with cartridges like the .357 SIG and 9mm parabellum +P, all of which can produce roughly the same power and energy levels as the .38 Super +P. It has been stated though that with the use of modern day powders that the .38 Super +P can equal or at best even supersede all other automatics in both power and accuracy apart from the devastating Desert Eagle automatic in .357magum, .44 magnum and .50 AutoExpress calibers.

__________________
mississippirick is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-2009, 09:03 AM   #12
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Rogers, AR
Posts: 6,262
Liked 3 Times on 2 Posts

Default

That's some interesting plagerism for sure.

COLT 38 SUPER

__________________
Gojubrian is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-2009, 10:55 AM   #13
Supporting Member
FTF_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Mark F's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Bedford Texas
Posts: 2,865
Liked 54 Times on 35 Posts
Likes Given: 12

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gojubrian View Post
That's some interesting plagerism for sure.

COLT 38 SUPER

Agree. The precise definition of PLAGERISM.
__________________
*** Don't Mess With TEXAS ***
Μολὼν λάβε
Mark F is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-2009, 10:51 PM   #14
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
michigan0626's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 763
Liked 18 Times on 12 Posts
Likes Given: 16

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gojubrian View Post
That's some interesting plagerism for sure.

COLT 38 SUPER



if you look at the top of mississippi's post he wrote "Some Interesting Reading"
implying he got it from a source, he just failed at sighting the source.
__________________
كافر-INFIDEL

"The Marines I have seen around the world have, the cleanest bodies, the filthiest minds, the highest morale, and the lowest morals of any group of animals I have ever seen. Thank God for the United States Marine Corps." Eleanor Roosevelt, 1945
michigan0626 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2009, 04:44 AM   #15
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Rogers, AR
Posts: 6,262
Liked 3 Times on 2 Posts

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by michigan0626 View Post
if you look at the top of mississippi's post he wrote "Some Interesting Reading"
implying he got it from a source, he just failed at sighting the source.
He didn't quote it AND he didn't site the source. He merely copied and pasted, doesn't matter what he implied it's still plagerism.
__________________
Gojubrian is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2009, 11:12 AM   #16
Supporting Member
FTF_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Mark F's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Bedford Texas
Posts: 2,865
Liked 54 Times on 35 Posts
Likes Given: 12

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by michigan0626 View Post
if you look at the top of mississippi's post he wrote "Some Interesting Reading"
implying he got it from a source, he just failed at sighting the source.
All that is needed for someone elses "interesting reading", is a LINK.
__________________
*** Don't Mess With TEXAS ***
Μολὼν λάβε
Mark F is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2009, 12:54 PM   #17
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
michigan0626's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 763
Liked 18 Times on 12 Posts
Likes Given: 16

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark F View Post
All that is needed for someone elses "interesting reading", is a LINK.
you got that
__________________
كافر-INFIDEL

"The Marines I have seen around the world have, the cleanest bodies, the filthiest minds, the highest morale, and the lowest morals of any group of animals I have ever seen. Thank God for the United States Marine Corps." Eleanor Roosevelt, 1945
michigan0626 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2009, 04:12 PM   #18
Supporting Member
FTF_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Mark F's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Bedford Texas
Posts: 2,865
Liked 54 Times on 35 Posts
Likes Given: 12

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by michigan0626 View Post
you got that
WRONG...

All Mississippirick provided was his cut n' paste.
__________________
*** Don't Mess With TEXAS ***
Μολὼν λάβε
Mark F is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2009, 12:59 PM   #19
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
michigan0626's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 763
Liked 18 Times on 12 Posts
Likes Given: 16

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark F View Post
WRONG...

All Mississippirick provided was his cut n' paste.
Sorry, you got that is a something we say in prison (Im a CO). it means your right, i was wrong, my bad.
__________________
كافر-INFIDEL

"The Marines I have seen around the world have, the cleanest bodies, the filthiest minds, the highest morale, and the lowest morals of any group of animals I have ever seen. Thank God for the United States Marine Corps." Eleanor Roosevelt, 1945
michigan0626 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2009, 02:21 PM   #20
FTF_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
matt g's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 3,885
Liked 7 Times on 5 Posts

Default

Wow, a semi-useless thread has degraded into a completely useless e-penis waving fest.

__________________

"'Did you ever wonder why we had to run for shelter when the promise of a brave new world unfurled beneath a clear blue sky? "
Roger Waters

Vote freedom, join the Libertarian Party.

matt g is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Firearms Forum Replies Last Post
Super dukech1 Revolver Handguns 13 07-22-2009 04:51 AM
Purchased a super, super cheap recession buster pistol (JCP .40) SGT-MILLER General Handgun Discussion 18 06-14-2009 01:33 AM
11-87 Super Mag Handyman General Shotgun Discussion 6 05-07-2009 07:57 PM
.45 Super in Revolver GuerrillaBob Revolver Handguns 2 12-01-2007 03:11 AM