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Old 02-07-2012, 06:58 PM   #11
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Hey thanks gents yous guys have all convinced me to go buy one now any one have advice on how to keep the old lady from being angry from me "buying another Damn gun" just kidding but seriously Thankyou for the info.

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Good choice, can't help you with the wife, I have enough with my own! :0) and best of luck with the new gun!

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Hey thanks gents yous guys have all convinced me to go buy one now any one have advice on how to keep the old lady from being angry from me "buying another Damn gun" just kidding but seriously Thankyou for the info.
What worked for me was making an analogy that guns for me are like shoes for her: "why do you need so many guns" and i'll go: "why do you need 300 pairs of shoes". You can try that!
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In my experience the effectiveness of the .357 Magnum is partially a result of bullet shape and construction. The revolver ammo tends to have a more blunt profile with a voluminous hollow point. The .357 Sig is a supercharged 9mm with a rounder nose and smaller hollow point. While on paper they look very similar, in actuality the Magnum has the upper hand.

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In my experience the effectiveness of the .357 Magnum is partially a result of bullet shape and construction. The revolver ammo tends to have a more blunt profile with a voluminous hollow point. The .357 Sig is a supercharged 9mm with a rounder nose and smaller hollow point. While on paper they look very similar, in actuality the Magnum has the upper hand.
All the 357sig FMJ I've seen has been flat nosed, and I've shot quite a bit of it. Do you mean it's narrower than 9mm near in the upper half of the bullet?

357sig is fun. I just don't think it offers much to justify the expensive appetite. If someone knows of a good source for affordable 357sig FMJs, I'd love to hear it...I pay $20/box, delivered.

But here's the 9mm/40sw options I was mentioning, that'll replicate the 357:

CorBon 40sw: 135gr, 1325fps
Win Ranger 9mm +P+: 127gr, 1250fps
"Typical" 357sig JHP: 125gr, 1350fps
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I just picked up this from Cabela's.
www.cabelas.com/product/Shooting/Ammunition/Bulk-Ammunition|/pc/104792580/c/104691780/sc/106633080/Ultramax-Bulk-357-Sig-Ammunition/740726.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse%2Fshoot ing-ammunition-bulk-ammunition%2F_%2FN-1104709%2FNo-96%2FNs-CATEGORY_SEQ_106633080%3FWTz_l%3DSBC%253BMMcat1047 92580%253Bcat104691780%26WTz_st%3DGuidedNav%26WTz_ stype%3DGNP&WTz_l=SBC%3BMMcat104792580%3Bcat104691 780%3Bcat106633080http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/index.php/cName/357-sig-fmj-ammo
This is a pretty good site too:
http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/index.php/cName/357-sig-fmj-ammo

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All the 357sig FMJ I've seen has been flat nosed, and I've shot quite a bit of it. Do you mean it's narrower than 9mm near in the upper half of the bullet?

357sig is fun. I just don't think it offers much to justify the expensive appetite. If someone knows of a good source for affordable 357sig FMJs, I'd love to hear it...I pay $20/box, delivered.

But here's the 9mm/40sw options I was mentioning, that'll replicate the 357:

CorBon 40sw: 135gr, 1325fps
Win Ranger 9mm +P+: 127gr, 1250fps
"Typical" 357sig JHP: 125gr, 1350fps
Sorry, I meant to say the Sig round has a rounder nose and smaller HP than the .357 Mag. Even if the nose appears flat, look at the profile. Radiused nose to allow feeding reliability.
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For a defence pistol the 357 sig is just nother choice for you. As a trail/hunting round it falls way short of what a 357mag can do.

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Now all this is interesting and we can discuss energy, stopping power, one stop shots, etc. and on and on but when you really consider everything all of these handgun calibers aren't that far apart. I think bullet placement and shooting until the perp is down is what matters. A caliber with a little more "oomf" may do it quicker but who really knows. Use what you shoot best, feel comfortable with, hit the bad guy where it will do most damage and keep shooting until he stops all aggression.
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http://www.handloads.com/misc/stoppingpower.asp?Caliber=6&Weight=All
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http://www.handloads.com/misc/stoppingpower.asp?Caliber=11&Weight=All
45ACP
http://www.handloads.com/misc/stoppingpower.asp?Caliber=19&Weight=All
9MM+P+
http://www.handloads.com/misc/stoppingpower.asp?Caliber=17&Weight=All

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One other thing to consider with the .357 sig is its ability to feed reliably. Since its a necked down shouldered cartridge it naturally going to feed more reliably . I'm a big fan of it and my opinions may be biased, but I'm still willing to call it as I se it

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