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Old 05-15-2013, 12:13 AM   #31
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Since concealability is not an issue I would go with a 4" or 6" N-frame Smith .357 magnum with 158 grain lead semi wadcutter hollow points. If you don't like lead, I would go with the 158 or 180 grain JHP. None of these are that easy to find, but they are out there.

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Old 05-15-2013, 05:53 AM   #32
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All i can say is yes .45 may hav mor stopping power which is why i own a sig 1911 but most ppl under high stress n first shoot out may miss a moving target. One word ...target reaquistion. Which is slower with a hight caliber gun. So unless you have a great amount of expierence shootinh while possibly being shot at. Id go with a 9 any day of the week. And i dont care if you can hita bullseye 100yds awaywith. a 45. Cus that wont compare to a shootout. And any bullet will slow a person down enough for you to unload the rest of the mag in em. Not hating on you 45 or 357 lovers. Just stating the statistics shown in studies i found.

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Old 05-15-2013, 08:20 AM   #33
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All i can say is yes .45 may hav mor stopping power which is why i own a sig 1911 but most ppl under high stress n first shoot out may miss a moving target. One word ...target reaquistion. Which is slower with a hight caliber gun. So unless you have a great amount of expierence shootinh while possibly being shot at. Id go with a 9 any day of the week. And i dont care if you can hita bullseye 100yds awaywith. a 45. Cus that wont compare to a shootout. And any bullet will slow a person down enough for you to unload the rest of the mag in em. Not hating on you 45 or 357 lovers. Just stating the statistics shown in studies i found.
If you will read the thread title and the first post you will see the 9mm isn't an option. Since concealing the firearm didn't matter and offensive capability did, I would think the OP is looking for more than an every day self-defense weapon. Maybe a SHTF gun?

By the way, "target reacquisition" is two words. <grin>
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If you will read the thread title and the first post you will see the 9mm isn't an option.
I was going to say something. I'm glad someone else beat me to it.
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Interesting, this is an over 2 year old thread and you guys are still debating it.

The OP indicated that this was not a platform issue but a caliber issue. Well you can not debate the merits of one over the other without including the type of gun used. While both are fine calibers for self defense and will do the job without any problems, one will be simpler to use (revolver) and the other will have more capacity (semi-auto).

So it comes down to what type of targets are you going to be shooting at. Four legged targets my preference would be a 357 Mag, for two legged soft skin targets it would be the 45 ACP.

But that's just my opinion.
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My Blackhawk in .327 mag. 100gr. JHP-1850 fps-750 ft. lbs. energy, plus it holds 8 rounds.................

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[ realistically, your talking 20 feet in! Anything from 38 special up will do, depends on the mess you want to cause!! I personally feel 6 shot revolvers will work just fine!! I believe average rounds used or needed in home defense is 2! I I don't need two 18 round magazines and a 45 to feel safe at night!! I wouldn't use 36 rounds for home defense in 10 lifetimes!! Your much more likely to need high capacity mags at your local fast food restaurant than you are in your bed at night!! Call it fools thinking but that's my thinking!! And if you really want the perfect home defense weapon! Tuck a 12g shotgun in bed with you at night and sleep away-

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The question was for "Defense". So that means to me close quarter shooting, that is why I would go with the 45. The original reason for the 1911 was for stopping power.

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