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Old 05-21-2013, 12:56 AM   #451
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skeet and trap shooting ammo selection is like picking tires on a race car.
some days you need sticky tires, some days you need long lasting. etc...

in shotgun sports, the secret to any game is CHOKE SELECTION AND SHOT CHOICE.
gun selection is secondary. choke and shot is key.
remember what i said before....the game starts at the choke and goes 2 ways, back to you and out to the target.
if the part behind the choke does its job, the choke and shot will do its job.

as the old saying goes... its the nut behind the bolt that makes the shot.
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tex, hows academy doing for shotgun ammo in your parts?
Not a clue. Walmart is the best place to buy ammo here. We don't have an academy, cabelas, bass pro, or anything similar.

Closest academy is about an 1-1 1/2 hour drive away.

12ga should come back soon.
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for those that can...if it all possible you all really need to pattern your guns.
in pistol and rifle its called checking or finding zero. in shotguns its called patterning.
ive seen some really expensive guns shoot a worthless pattern due to bad chokes. a gun is worthless if it doesnt pattern.
this is why i still shoot the same guns i shot 30 years ago. because...I KNOW how it patterns.
just like 22's, every different ammo will cause changes in pattern. you need to see what your gun likes and stick to it.

you guys need to see if your gun has whats called...holes in the pattern. a hole is where shot doesnt fly...allowing birds or targets to fly thru un-hit. youd swear you had the right lead and did everything right...but a bad pattern will cause a miss.

winchester was world famous for its tolerances to choking. thats why when its match time, i grab an old winchester every time. (hand made bbls.)
i know the gun and the gun knows me. we never part.

this is why i laugh at someone when i hear them say they HAVE to have 30" bbls or HAVE TO HAVE screw in chokes or HAVE TO HAVE tube inserts.
only thing you HAVE TO HAVE is a gun you know and stick with it. every gun i won gold with had 26 or 28" bbls with fixed chokes!

in my career ive owned and shot over 400 different guns. and all im left with are the ones i know will pattern! looks dont mean a thing. if it functions safely and patterns, it goes in my safe!
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i hope you all are taking notes...............
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Just one important note for me: borrow from Bobski!!!
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I decided when I sold my 500, that although I loved that gun, my next shotty would be a side by side or semi. I was willing to go for an over/under if I could find one at the right price..

Man, just a basic o/u that takes screw in chokes is over 600 used in these parts...
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[/QUOTE=Balota;1252932]All OK here in Glenpool, south of Tulsa. But Moore, south of Oklahoma City is severely damaged. F4 tornado over a mile wide on the ground for a pretty long time. A few housing developments are swept clear down to foundations. The school was hit bad. If you have any connections with the Big Guy upstairs, now's the time, start prayin'.

BTW, I have 10 boxes of 12ga, 2-3/4" shells, 1 oz of #8 shot. If the 12 ga proves too much for me, I may have to beg for a 20ga. [/QUOTE]

I'm glad you're okay. I was sleeping most of the day and have been clueless as to what was happening out by you.
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I decided when I sold my 500, that although I loved that gun, my next shotty would be a side by side or semi. I was willing to go for an over/under if I could find one at the right price..

Man, just a basic o/u that takes screw in chokes is over 600 used in these parts...
When I bought my pump, they also had an old O/U. I think it was $300-$400. Can't remember any specifics about it though.
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think about it...sbs's and o&u's are 2 guns strapped together.
when they were invented, someone thought it would be faster to change guns by using the reach of a finger than handing it to bwana carrying a different one behind him. thus double triggers and 2 different chokes side by side.
to this day, sbs's are usually mod and full. no putting the gun down, changing chokes, and shooting. just change triggers.
trip286s gun has the advantage at the meet. all he has to do is change triggers to change chokes.
all of us with single bbl guns are stuck with whatever choke we have in at the time of the game.

tex, when thinking cost for a sbs...figure a 150-200.00 single bbl gun gun twice. so a 3-400.00 sbs is cheap.
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balota has all his work done for him. my guns are perfect.
btw...i have a patterning area at my range. feel free to use it when you come.
for you 1st squaders, it may be an afterthought if you do it after you shoot. unless you come early, you guys need to go out and do it now.
get a huge piece of cardboard or paper and draw a 30" circle with a 4" black circle in the middle. pace off 21yds. hold the gun like youd be shooting it and put the front bead on the 4" circle to simulate the clay. sit down if you can and bag it so you wont print a flinch and get a false reading. fire.
go look on the paper for places big enough that a 4" clay could fly thru without touching a pellet hole. thats called a hole in the pattern.
none? GOOD. many? BAD.
go to work.
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