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Old 05-05-2013, 03:07 AM   #111
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if you shoot bad, you must walk a cow patty field as part of your punishment.
I can honestly say I'll shoot better than I ever have before... Does that mean I won't shoot bad? Or should I just plan on some disposable hip waders for the walk???
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So everyone except one person has to walk through half digested grass composed fecal matter mixed with bovine urine?

I guess I'm glad I hit 95 of 100 a couple weeks ago... But they were all thrown straight out in front of us with very little variation in height and speed...

I'd better practice more...
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Alright! I get to shoot with Trip! Just remember, Trip, it's my job to make everyone else look good. One of us has to look like we know what we're doing, and that's you!!!
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I've never shot these games before! Only informal backyard style shooting. It's a whole different ball game!
Hmmm... Let's see. Trip owns a shotgun. He has shot 95/100 recently. Balota has taken 40 years to get over a bad experience and has shot 0/0 pretty much ever.

I only have two degrees in math, but one of them is telling me which of us is more likely to look like they know what they're doing!!!
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Will NOT be petting some stupid, smelly cow. They're good for absolutely nothing but milk and burgers. They don't even make cute babies!!
Cows are sweet and calves are adorable.

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dang straight.
theres a price for poor performance!
Now that I'm all paid up, the threats begin!! This was supposed to be a learning experience for me. I'm getting nervous about this.

I'll never forget walking my sister's cow pasture with her and my very young niece. The little one slipped on a cow patty and fell flat into it. I couldn't stop laughing.
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Hmmm... Let's see. Trip owns a shotgun. He has shot 95/100 recently. Balota has taken 40 years to get over a bad experience and has shot 0/0 pretty much ever.

I only have two degrees in math, but one of them is telling me which of us is more likely to look like they know what they're doing!!!
Man, when these machines start throwing clays in directions and at speeds I'm not used to, it's anyone's game! These machines can sometimes throw up to 50ish miles per hour. A hand thrower, maybe around 15-25, unless you really put some umph into it. The spring loaded machine we were using the other weekend, we dumbed it down after the first few clays because we didn't want to wear ourselves out by recocking it. I have no idea how fast it was throwing, but it likely wasn't as fast as what we'll be seeing in Missouri. And, a straight away shot (like I was shooting at) ain't too hard to hit, especially when it's following an almost identical flight path every time.
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most home throwers are set up next to you, right?
well, in my course. youre 16yds away from the machine to start with!
these fellas are on the 17yd line.

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Bobski - Pls put me on the list - thanks! It is Oct 5th right?

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most home throwers are set up next to you, right?
well, in my course. youre 16yds away from the machine to start with!
This should put things into a bit of a perspective...
I have fixed chokes in my gun, full and modified, and yes, the thrower was right next to me. Sue was doing the throwing for us, so I wanted him close enough that I could snatch him up by his hair if I needed too. Plus, without a trap house, don't really want to put someone out in front of you...

Let's look at this objectively...
Starting point = +16 yards
Speed = ~40 MPH, and this is usually considered the MINIMUM in American skeet. International can go up to ~70 MPH supposedly.
Max Effective Range for skeet from a Modified choke 12 gauge = 32.5 yards according to the chart.

This means, that with the starting point 16 yards out in front of you, and traveling at a minimum of 40 MPH, you have to get your shot off (optimally) before it travels another 16.5 yards.

By comparison, the average speed for an NFL running back in 2008 was 4.53 seconds for 40 yards.

This approximates as 2.25ish seconds for 20 yards, just 3.5 yards farther than the optimal range of a Modified choke 12 gauge (again, according to the chart)

Now... MPH? Average MPH for an NFL running back is supposedly somewhere between 17 and 21 MPH (bear in mind, those are usually short sprints, where they give it so much effort it would make my heart pop). We could do the math, converting yards into miles, and seconds into hours, multiply by this, divide by that, but I ain't doing it. This is less than half the speed a skeet usually travels.

We're looking at less than a second to get the shot in.

It's going to be challenging.
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