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Old 02-20-2016, 04:22 PM   #1
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My brother pawned a few of his long guns, he went to retrieve them and was denied on his NICs check due to a recent open case/warrent . what are our options? Can he sell me his pawn ticket and I can get them back for myself?( I have no intentions on giving them back to him till he gets this mess cleared and is legal to purchase) can they be transfered to me if I pay the loan? I hate to see the pawnshop keep the guns. I would like to have them for myself. I am in Michigan.
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Old 02-20-2016, 04:53 PM   #2
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That is an interesting question as I have time I'm going to ask a local pawnshop here in the Anchorage area (Alaska, not in Michigan )and some of the answer will still be valid nation wide.
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Please keep in mind that the federal gov.can and will send you up that creek without a paddle. Regardless of your interpretation of the law.
This is a straw purchase for a felon. No matter what the future holds. You can argue that it is not, but the Feds always get their man.
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OK then since you believe I would be purchasing them for him, which is not the case at all, I want to make that extremely clear, can he sell the pawn ticket to anyone else to try to recoup some of the money he would be loosing?
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BTW he's not a felon
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Currently the pawn shop could refuse to sell to you just because they suspect straw purchase. I do not know about the ability to sell the pawn ticket. If you want to buy them for yourself you may have to wait until the claim time expires and actually buy them from the shop as a customer. This means you will pay more than the pawn loan value, but if they are that important to you...
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BTW he's not a felon
Doesn't have to be a felon, just a person who is not currently legally able to purchase for himself.
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the BATF does address that on their website and from what I gather, yes the holder of the pawn ticket, other than the person who pawned the guns may redeem them.

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/whom-may-pawnbroker-return-pawned-firearm

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/what-procedure-pawnbroker-return-pawned-firearm
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I apologize. Felon was the wrong word to use. As is "give" to your brother, instead of transfer. My point was that your statement appears to be of a straw purchase. The gov. FBI and BATF will lie, cheat and blackmail to get you in the clink.
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Just a thought; Pawn shops used to be fun places to shop and buy but they are incredibly regulated by local, state and federal laws. Some if not most of the pawn shops have learned ways to manipulate the law(s) in order to profit. Have you thought about showing up with the ticket and asking to pay off the guns? If they are honest and it is legal they will do so. If they won't then they are playing a game to get the guns for the pawn amount and make profit by selling them. They make less profit returning them to you or your brother. One other thing to consider is that if one or more of the guns have collector value that is higher than what they lent your brother, this would be strong incentive not to return them to you and sell them at collector value. These types of situations is why I no longer buy or Borrow) from Pawn shops.
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