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Old 04-04-2013, 05:36 PM   #41
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1. Is a .357 magnum a powerful gun in terms of being able to do alot of damage like being able to one shot kill.
Yes, a .357 has similar muzzle energy as to a .45ACP, for this reason my
wife's revolver is a .357 Mag. But you can shoot .38 Spl from it also for
easier and cheap ammo.

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2. When firing a gun what protecting do I need besides ear/eye protection and whats the best eye/ear protecting. Like what specificly should I be wearing/using.
ANSI approved safety glass for eye protection and ANSI rated foam
ear plugs for hearing. The ANSI rating will be on the packaging if
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3. When one goes to buy a gun do they give u a discount if you pay with cash or buy two guns or something?
Depends on the store, my local gun shop give 3% discount for cash and local checks.

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4. In your opinion what is the best handgun for home-defense?
I am a fan of the 1911, I like big holes in targets, I am 46 and have been
shooting the 1911 since I joined the Navy at 18 so shooting it natural for me.
Your mileage will vary.

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5. What do you do after buying a gun? Do you just wait until they call you to pick it up?and do you pick it up in the same place you bought it.
Hand guns in Illinois are a 3 business day wait by the law. You can just go
pick it up, many shop will make you wait for the full 72 hours, Mega Sports
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6. Can you negotiate? Like if he says 400$ you say 380$ or something?
You can try, in todays market you will likely not get far with that on a new
gun, used guns are always negotiable.

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7. Can you be scammed? and what should I watch for when buying a gun.
New guns not so much, used guns are always a crap shoot, reputable shops
often have used guns looked over by a good gunsmith if they do not have
one on staff.

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8. Any good gun shops in downtown Chicago?
None I know of, none I know of in County of Crook either, lots in the collar counties.

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9. With what guns do hollow point bullets not work with?
Generally you have to careful with 1911's and HP ammo, I have found a
round that works well in both of my 1911's. Other semi's I cannot comment
on. Revolvers it is not an issue.

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10. In general when buying a gun, what do you need besides your FOID card? Do you need your ID or any paperwork or anything(including in Megasportsfirearms, what day/time is it the least crowded)
State issued Photo ID, silly as it may sound, DL or State ID plus your FOID.

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11. What should you say if you get stopped by cops in Illinois. Your gun is unloaded and in a case. Should one not say a single word or what? What should you say as to why you have a gun.
You are not required by law to disclose that you have a firearm in your car.
That will likely change with a new CCW law, but we have to wait and see
what they pass in Springfield.

I was stopped not to long ago pulling out of the ISRA range, for speeding,
58 in 55, yeah really... The cop asked me if there was anything in the car
he should know about. I said, No. He then asked if I had any firearms in
the car, I answered yes. Then he asked, Don't you think I should know
about those, I answered, No. He did not ask to see my FOID.

His Sgt. then pulled up said Hi to him and walked up to my car. His Sgt. is
one of my hunting buddies...

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12. Why do people buy guns besides for hunting/range shooting/homedefense?
Competition shooting. Varmit eradication, such as coyote.

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13. What do they ask you when your going in to buy a gun?
Not sure what you are after with this. All the legal questions are on the 4473
form you have to fill out. The seller may ask you other questions of what
you shooting needs are to help you pick out a proper weapon for your needs.
It is still a free country you do not need to state your purpose for owning a
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14. How many guns should one have for home defense purposes?
This is my opinion; one per mature person in the home. I did not put an age
on that on purpose.
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1. Is a .357 magnum a powerful gun in terms of being able to do alot of damage like being able to one shot kill.

8. Any good gun shops in downtown Chicago?
1. One shot one kill - Hollywood mostly. Shot placement is more critical than caliber. Yeah, they'll bleed out faster with the larger round but if you can't hit the broad side of a barn with it, it doesn't matter.

8. There are NO gun shops or ranges in the City of Chicago at all. They are illegal. There's a few in Cook Co. Just Google Gun Shop Chicago and it will map them.
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Not sure if someone wanted to buy their first car that I would recommend they purchase a go-kart.
Maybe if they asked:
"if it turn the steering wheel to the right which way would it go?"
"if i push on the accelerator will i be able to go up hills?"
"if i step on the brake, will that stop me from running into my neighbors house?"
"if i go faster will slower people get out of my way?"
"how do i backup if im facing forward?"

See my point now?
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Maybe if they asked:
"if it turn the steering wheel to the right which way would it go?"
"if i push on the accelerator will i be able to go up hills?"
"if i step on the brake, will that stop me from running into my neighbors house?"
"if i go faster will slower people get out of my way?"
"how do i backup if im facing forward?"

See my point now?
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I see your point, but I say forget the training wheels. Put your big boy pants on and learn.
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I see your point, but I say forget the training wheels. Put your big boy pants on a learn.
Don't get me wrong, I would prefer learning in a Camaro over a go-cart too. Some people just need to know their limitations.
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Thanks for all the help.

Sorry for all the questions..lol

1. Is a .357 magnum a powerful gun in terms of being able to do alot of damage like being able to one shot kill.

2. When firing a gun what protecting do I need besides ear/eye protection and whats the best eye/ear protecting. Like what specificly should I be wearing/using.

3. When one goes to buy a gun do they give u a discount if you pay with cash or buy two guns or something?

4. In your opinion what is the best handgun for home-defense?

5. What do you do after buying a gun? Do you just wait until they call you to pick it up?and do you pick it up in the same place you bought it

6. Can you negotiate? Like if he says 400$ you say 380$ or something?

7. Can you be scammed? and what should I watch for when buying a gun.

8. Any good gun shops in downtown Chicago?

9. With what guns do hollow point bullets not work with?

10. In general when buying a gun, what do you need besides your FOID card? Do you need your ID or any paperwork or anything(including in Megasportsfirearms, what day/time is it the least crowded)

11. What should you say if you get stopped by cops in Illinois. Your gun is unloaded and in a case. Should one not say a single word or what? What should you say as to why you have a gun

12. Why do people buy guns besides for hunting/range shooting/homedefense?

13. What do they ask you when your going in to buy a gun?

14. How many guns should one have for home defense purposes?

Thank you all so very much.
The 357 magnum is IMO the most versatile revolver chambering you can get. It shoots everything from cheap .38's all the way up to full-house 357 magnums, one of the best designed man-stoppers of a round there is. Simple answer, if you are getting a revolver, get a 357.

There is no such thing as a best handgun for home defense. It is very much dependent on your personal preferences. I would recommend staying with a major caliber: 9mm, 357, 40, 45. For myself, I have a .45 1911 in quick access box in my nightstand.

Any gun you purchase should be tested with the ammunition you intend to use for defense purposes. When I purchase a new handgun, I will go to the range and run 200 rounds (cheap stuff) through it and then shoot 20 rounds of defensive loads (typically one box) through it. I want to see no failures at all for any gun I will be staking my life on. At least none that aren't caused by me.

If stopped by police, I won't say anything about the gun if it is cased and unloaded. If I am carrying a concealed loaded weapon, I will present my permit with my driver's license. DO NOT say "hello officer, I have a gun." Bad things happen if you do that... bad things.

How many guns for home defense? As many as you want.
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shotgun, 12 guage pump, simple to use, maintain and clean, mosberg 500 is a good one and can usualt be bought new for around 350 bucks

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The 357 magnum is IMO the most versatile revolver chambering you can get. It shoots everything from cheap .38's all the way up to full-house 357 magnums, one of the best designed man-stoppers of a round there is. Simple answer, if you are getting a revolver, get a 357.

There is no such thing as a best handgun for home defense. It is very much dependent on your personal preferences. I would recommend staying with a major caliber: 9mm, 357, 40, 45. For myself, I have a .45 1911 in quick access box in my nightstand.

Any gun you purchase should be tested with the ammunition you intend to use for defense purposes. When I purchase a new handgun, I will go to the range and run 200 rounds (cheap stuff) through it and then shoot 20 rounds of defensive loads (typically one box) through it. I want to see no failures at all for any gun I will be staking my life on. At least none that aren't caused by me.

If stopped by police, I won't say anything about the gun if it is cased and unloaded. If I am carrying a concealed loaded weapon, I will present my permit with my driver's license. DO NOT say "hello officer, I have a gun." Bad things happen if you do that... bad things.

How many guns for home defense? As many as you want.
I think pretty much all your questions have been answered but just to confirm:

The 357 magnum is an effective and lethal caliber. I personally have one at home.

I also have two 40sw semi-auto's, my ccw, a Taurus PT740 and my main home defense semi-auto a Jericho 941.

If crap hits the fan, I've got a Maverick 88, 12ga loaded with PDX1 defender cartridges.

More than one weapon at home will improve your chances. Be prepared and be familiar with your weapons. You've been given a lot if good advice from many experienced gun owners. If you follow it you should do alright.
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Lots of good advice.For a novice.or a women a revolver is much more forgiving.I know not all women have long nails and weak hands.But no sane person can argue about which one is safer in a beginners hands.A .357 is great,with 38 spc. target loads its tame enough for anyone.Best advice of all buy from some one who would be a reliable source of expertly handloaded ammo.(check classifieds)

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