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Old 04-03-2013, 04:37 PM   #31
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Recoil has nothing whatsoever to do with brand. Within a brand, there are multiple models at varying costs.

You have soundly reinforced what you have been told by a LOT of people- go take a class.

When I learned to fly, there was a lot of reading. NOTHING subsituted for the instructor-pilot sitting in the other seat.

Fireaarms I learned from my Dad and a host of uncles. If you have a shortage of uncles, you need some training. Period.

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Old 04-03-2013, 05:45 PM   #32
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What are some major differences among popular brands

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Old 04-03-2013, 06:18 PM   #33
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Some brands tend to be more expensive than others, but most brands make different pistols for different needs. I don't imagine you would find a Kimber or a Colt that would cost less than a similar caliber and type of handgun from Bersa or RIA, but all of those brands make different calibers and types of handguns. You could probably find a model from each that would meet your needs.

Best bet is gonna be to take a basic class and to rent some different models at a range (maybe as part of a class?) to see what fits you. You can read some reviews at Buds Gun Shop online, if you can narrow your search down a bit.

A class or practical shooting experience would help you determine the physical characteristics that you like in a handgun like: weight, caliber, barrel length, construction (polymer vs all steel vs alloys), operation (double-action/single action (cz-75b) vs. double action only (glock)), and such.

I have a little 9mm Bersa Thunder9 Ultra Compact Pro that has similar controls to any number of DA/SA pistols like a cz-75b in a fairly compact pistol. I LIKE it's compact but comfortable size/style, but the 9mm recoil is MUCH more noticeable than in my larger & heavier cz-75b. I have a ruger gp100 in .357 mag/.38 special that is AWESOME fun at the range, but has limited capacity (6) and concealability when compared to the little Bersa T9.
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What ammo should I have strictly for home defense

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Hollow point! DO NOT USE FULL METAL JACKET (FMJ, TMJ).
Or if you live in close proximity to others (apartment) or have kids and are worried about over penetration through a wall, then buy frangible rounds.
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That depends somewhat on what gun it is for. In my bedside shotgun I load a round of birdshot first, followed by buckshot, buckshot, and a slug is last. In my GP100 revolver, I load .38 special semi-jacketed hollow points for less noise & flash than .357 but with good expandability (+ 2 speedloaders of the same). For my .45ACP Springfield XD, I keep several magazines of either 230 grain Federal Hydrashock hollowpoints or 165 grain Federal Hydrashock hollowpoints, both jacketed in copper. For the CZ-75b and the Bersa Thunder9UCP, I have multiple magazines (10 & 3) loaded with jacketed hollowpoint rounds similar to the Federal Hydrashocks (some hydrashocks and some Sellier & Bellot JHP's). In the SKS rifle, I keep a few magazines (20 round tapcos) of mixed soft point and hollow point rounds ready to go.

I don't keep the black powder firearms loaded and would be hesitant to choose one for home defense unless I wanted a smoke cloud for concealment.

So, pick a range, pick a class, pick a style/type of handgun, pick a brand & model handgun, and then pick a type of ammo and brand.


http://www.federalpremium.com/products/details/handgun.aspx?id=354 The 230 grain 45acp rounds I like.
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I don't necessarily agree with everything he says, but it explains well the trade-offs with all handguns.
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Funny as it may sound ....one might suggest starting with an airsoft or bb gun. Get used to handling a loaded gun. Being conscious of hand/finger placement, muzzle direction, grip, aiming, safety, and safety.
Oh, and safety.

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Funny as it may sound ....one might suggest starting with an airsoft or bb gun. Get used to handling a loaded gun. Being conscious of hand/finger placement, muzzle direction, grip, aiming, safety, and safety.
Oh, and safety.
Not sure if someone wanted to buy their first car that I would recommend they purchase a go-kart.
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Thanks for all the help.

Sorry for all the questions..lol

1. Is a .357 magnum a powerful gun in terms of being able to do alot of damage like being able to one shot kill.

2. When firing a gun what protecting do I need besides ear/eye protection and whats the best eye/ear protecting. Like what specificly should I be wearing/using.

3. When one goes to buy a gun do they give u a discount if you pay with cash or buy two guns or something?

4. In your opinion what is the best handgun for home-defense?

5. What do you do after buying a gun? Do you just wait until they call you to pick it up?and do you pick it up in the same place you bought it

6. Can you negotiate? Like if he says 400$ you say 380$ or something?

7. Can you be scammed? and what should I watch for when buying a gun.

8. Any good gun shops in downtown Chicago?

9. With what guns do hollow point bullets not work with?

10. In general when buying a gun, what do you need besides your FOID card? Do you need your ID or any paperwork or anything(including in Megasportsfirearms, what day/time is it the least crowded)

11. What should you say if you get stopped by cops in Illinois. Your gun is unloaded and in a case. Should one not say a single word or what? What should you say as to why you have a gun

12. Why do people buy guns besides for hunting/range shooting/homedefense?

13. What do they ask you when your going in to buy a gun?

14. How many guns should one have for home defense purposes?

Thank you all so very much.

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