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Old 01-16-2014, 05:34 PM   #31
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Or in your vehicle if you are eligible to carry in your state of residence.
CGS is correct, here is the section of the FCCA he is referring to:

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430 ILCS 66/40(e) Nothing in this Act shall prohibit a non-resident from
transporting a concealed firearm within his or her vehicle in Illinois, if the
concealed firearm remains within his or her vehicle and the non-resident:
(1) is not prohibited from owning or possessing a firearm under federal law;
(2) is eligible to carry a firearm in public under the laws of his or her
state or territory of residence, as evidenced by the possession of a concealed
carry license or permit issued by his or her state of residence, if applicable; and
(3) is not in possession of a license under this Act.
If the non-resident leaves his or her vehicle unattended, he or she shall
store the firearm within a locked vehicle or locked container within the vehicle
in accordance with subsection (b) of Section 65 of this Act.
CGS and I are both Certified CC Instructors here in Illinois.
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So if you accept the position, how soon until you start? When is the move in 2015 to Canal St? How firm is it that they are moving? If your department has issues and you lose your job, where is the better market for your occupation?

You hate the weather up here If you move into the lake effect snow belt area of IN, you're really going to love us!

Short term pain for long term gain? That is a tough decision. And we presume the wife is on board with the move? Happy wife, happy life.
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I almost expected to open this thread and find out the OP was a troll. What a title for a thread!
I have a sister who moved from centrall Il down into Warner Robbins, Ga in the mid 90s. She only comes back here for funerals and she could care less about gun laws.
I stayed here because of my wifes family, but I know that once they are gone, so will we. My oldest daughter is married and lives in Fort Wayne, In. Loves it.
I'm central/southern Il and even finding land down here with timber is difficult, so good luck on the 10 acres. I don't think folks on this forum are all negative about Il soley over the gun laws. I don't even think you can say what happens in government here is politics. Two counties elected the last governor. Chicago has no republican alderman. Last two governors sitting in jail. Pensions and budgets are out of control, bla bla bla.
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The guns while nothing to rave about are tolerable.

The things that will drive me out of this state are:
  1. High taxes
  2. No fiscal responsibility at all at any level of government
  3. High government debt
We will be "New Detroit" soon...

The gun laws make the top ten but are not the worst of it.
we are still better off than CA or NY and several other east
coast socialist havens.
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Just clear up some confusion, you can CC in Illinois as a non-resident, you
have to get an IL non-resident license, that fee is $300 for five years plus
the training costs. But it is an expensive option.
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Please correct me if I'm wrong, but only residents of certain states will qualify to get the non-resident license (ie Hawaii). That is how I'm reading the law... now as a resident of IN with a CCL there, I still would not be able to get a non-resident license, yet I could carry loaded in my vehicle (ie console).
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So if you accept the position, how soon until you start? When is the move in 2015 to Canal St? How firm is it that they are moving? If your department has issues and you lose your job, where is the better market for your occupation?

You hate the weather up here If you move into the lake effect snow belt area of IN, you're really going to love us!

Short term pain for long term gain? That is a tough decision. And we presume the wife is on board with the move? Happy wife, happy life.
The start date would be late March. The office move to downtown is a defiite. They already have the lease of the building and are in the design phase of the retrofit. The job market for my industry is pretty fickle. I'm and RF Engineer with 25 yrs in Satellite Communications. There's a bigger market in ATL than CHI, but I would be keeping the house here (renting out) so there's an option to come back. To be honest, I'd move west if CHI didn't work out (and would already be doing that if the wife didn't have family in IN).
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Indiana to Itasca commute isn't really plausible. Simply mapquest the drive time. Now double it for rush hour traffic.

Dupage is a little better than Crook County but not by much. If you do move to IL, I wouldn't even bother with cook county.


I literally got off the phone with a guy about 30 minutes ago who said he moved here from Virginia about 6 months ago and had no idea the gun laws. He said it was a huge shocker to him and had he known he might not have moved.


I would leave Chicago tomorrow if I could. Actually I don't live in Chicago anymore but for me the entire metro area IS Chicago. Think about it like this. For $315k my house is a 3 bedroom 2 bathroom ranch about 2,100 sq ft with attached garage. Small house on a small lot, actual property is like 4,997 sq ft. What could you get in your area for $315,000?

Let's talk taxes. For my little ranch house I pay about $7,000 a year in taxes. Yes I am in a good school district which is why I bought, but I know a guy who has a house about the same size on a larger lot in TN and pays $269.00 per year in property taxes and he only paid something like $70k for his house. I'm sure the schools aren't nearly as good but for those property taxes I could send my kids to private school.

Let's talk about red light and speeding cameras. In 2012, I spent well over $500 in red light camera tickets. That's like turning your average road into a toll road, and since I was a roofing contractor at the time I drove ALOT. They added the speeding cameras in 2013.

9.25% sales tax in cook county. And don't try to buy a car in Lake or Dupage counties, because when you register it in Cook you will get a tax bill for the difference. How is that even legal!? Most people I know will drive an hour out of cook for their big ticket purchases to save 2-3% on the sales tax.

Honestly, unless you are going to earn more than $100,000 or less than $20,000 it's not worth moving into Cook.

Now let's talk about the FOID. On paper sounds like a good idea, back ground checks, public safety, except the whole system is abused by our anti-freedom state government to inconvenience, suppress, and even criminalize gun owners.

And now they just made e-cigarettes the same classification as a real tobacco cigarette. Throw a cigarette butt out your car window, which is kind of scummy anyways, but it's not a jailable offense in my opinion. I do not smoke cigarettes, but I think those who want to should be able to. Oh and my brother does smoke and a pack of cigarettes costs well over $10 a pack, because of, you guessed it, taxes!


I look forward to the day I leave this state!


3 dogs in an apartment?! That's going to be tough. You may have to rent a house.
Thanks for the detailed input CGS ...
Most of the reasons you mention are why I am considering heavily to reside in IN. I've found 20 properties of 10 acres or more that are going for $250K and below. All with taxes under 2K a year.

I have mapped the drive from each of these places to Itasca, Google Maps even gives a decent estimated travel time with traffic. That's still an estimate though. Times range there from 1hr15min to 2hr in rush hour. I've done that before and hated it... I arrange my work schedule around rush hour (no kids in the house makes that more doable)... the main thing though is this drive is why I'm 90% sure I won't buy a house until after the move to N. Canal St and the more viable option of the Metro/Train.
The salary is a good bit north of $100K and I still won't consider living in Cook county... Cook county is 100% off the table no matter what I do.

the 3 dogs won't be in an apartment.. we will be renting a house.
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OK everyone, I sincerely want to thank each of you for your responses. It's good info to mull over for me and maybe anyone else considering a move like this.

I've tried to rebute some of the responses at times, making it appear that I'm leaning towards accepting the offer no matter what. That is currently FAR from the case. I'm actually at 40% for and 60% against the move. The wife is 50/50 .... she grew up in the weather and is debating the nasty summers here to the nasty winters there. The weather is really not that important to me. I grew up in the heat of the south and have spent many years in the cold/nasty north (plus other places).

I can make this work monetarily, but it's not a huge win-fall on the salary front. If the wife votes no then that makes it simple and I will stay right here. If she votes yes, then we got more debating to do.

If I lived back where I grew up and not near Atlanta, there's no way I'd consider working in Chicago. Living in Northern Indiana would still be on the table though.
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Shade,
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but only residents of certain states will qualify to get the non-resident license (ie Hawaii). That is how I'm reading the law... now as a resident of IN with a CCL there, I still would not be able to get a non-resident license...
Okay, your wrong, nothing in the law eliminates or even mentions particular
states. I would like to see what you are referring to "in the law". I think you
misunderstand the training credit. Any non-resident to IL can get a CCL as
long as they can legally own guns in their state, and meet all the same
requirements as an IL resident: age, background check, training, qualification,
etc...

Now the Illinois State Police (ISP) and not the law accepts the following
courses for credit:

Illinois Hunter Safety Course
Chicago Firearms Safety Course
Florida Concealed Carry
Kentucky Concealed Carry
Michigan Concealed Carry
Missouri Concealed Carry
Nevada Concealed Carry
Utah Concealed Carry

That means is you have one of the above you get 4 hours credit toward the
16 hour training requirement. So if you are lets say a GA or IN resident and
have the FL CCW. You only need 12 hours training to meet the 16 hour
requirement.

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...yet I could carry loaded in my vehicle (ie console).
and that you have a CCL/CCW/CWP from an other state.
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The start date would be late March. The office move to downtown is a defiite. They already have the lease of the building and are in the design phase of the retrofit. The job market for my industry is pretty fickle. I'm and RF Engineer with 25 yrs in Satellite Communications. There's a bigger market in ATL than CHI, but I would be keeping the house here (renting out) so there's an option to come back. To be honest, I'd move west if CHI didn't work out (and would already be doing that if the wife didn't have family in IN).
If you do look at a home in IL, look West of I-39 or south of the Kankakee or
Illinois Rivers (the confluence of the Kankakee and DuPage Rivers are the
start of the Illinois) The wife and I bought a house near Herscher, IL and we
were able to make Downers Grove in just over an hour, Itasca is a bit north of
DG, downtown from here is 1.5-1.75 hours. Also we have a lot of commuter
train options around the city to get you down town. Do you know the address
on canal?
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