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Pardon granted on 25-yr old conviction. Do I need to notify NICS?

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Old 09-21-2013, 10:58 PM   #11
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As a non dealer I cannot give you useful info like some of the other guys here but I just want ot tell you i wish you lots of luck and wish to congratulate you on your pardon.

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Old 09-22-2013, 12:24 AM   #12
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Originally Posted by hellodolly View Post
Thanks for all of the welcomes. I wasn't getting email notices of this thread so I'm a little late.. I posted in the main Legal forum but it looks like you, c3 and the others provided me with everything I need to move ahead.

Does it usually take a long time for a UPIN request? It took almost 2 years for the pardon/restoration to be issued.
The UPIN only took a few days to get, as it was mailed to my wife. We didn't ask if it was possible to wait for it. It is a fairly quick process compared to legal action.

As I understand BATFE rules, again, C3 is correct and I agree: form 4473, question 11.c, should be answered "No." Your pardon is full forgiveness, as evidenced by the specific statement that ALL RIGHTS are restored. You are being restored to full citizen status with no restrictions. Therefore, you do not answer questions as if you are a parolee or convicted felon.

Again, you can only get in trouble for answering 11.c. As "No" if your INTENT is to defraud the government. Since you believe that you are fully restored according to your letter, then you honestly answer "No" with the intent to provide the letter as clarification if you are denied. You have no intent to defraud anyone. Therefore, there is no crime being committed by answering "No" and you should feel free to do so the same as any of us would.
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Old 10-07-2013, 01:05 AM   #13
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I got my fingerprint card done last week and pulled an updated copy of my criminal history (the pardon shows up there, including the right to own firearms), I got two cards just in case so one original will be sent in, and copies of the criminal history and the pardon from the stae will be mailed in with my VAF app.

I do have a question.. it seems obvious, but on the VAF form it requires a "REASON FOR APPLICATION". Is this a trick question? I'm applying for the UPIN to hopefully make it easier on gun shops and NICS to check my history out. Should I just be blunt and say "firearms purchase" or provide more detail?
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Old 01-11-2015, 04:45 PM   #14
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I know this is old, but I thought I'd reply in case someone is searching the topic.

I received a "full" felony pardon from the Governor of the State of Nebraska. In that state there are two types of pardons, A "full pardon" which restores all civil rights including the ability to own firearms and a "partial pardon" that disallows firearms. Know which one you have.

I own guns, lots of them. Where I live is a handgun permit state. My permits take longer than the average person and I generally have to submit additional information regarding my pardon. My NICS checks are ALWAYS delayed but come back proceed after a couple of days. I could fix both of these buy obtaining a concealed permit (my state is a "will issue" state).
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"It may have the effect of erasing the conviction, but the record remains."

It may be worth looking into having your records expunged. I've herd that sometimes this works out well, but, most that do this hire an attorney and it does take a bit of time and costs a few dollars.
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