Originally Posted by hellodolly
Thanks for all of the welcomes. I wasn't getting email notices of this thread so I'm a little late.. I posted in the main Legal forum but it looks like you, c3 and the others provided me with everything I need to move ahead.
Does it usually take a long time for a UPIN request? It took almost 2 years for the pardon/restoration to be issued.
The UPIN only took a few days to get, as it was mailed to my wife. We didn't ask if it was possible to wait for it. It is a fairly quick process compared to legal action.
As I understand BATFE rules, again, C3 is correct and I agree: form 4473, question 11.c, should be answered "No." Your pardon is full forgiveness, as evidenced by the specific statement that ALL RIGHTS are restored. You are being restored to full citizen status with no restrictions. Therefore, you do not answer questions as if you are a parolee or convicted felon.
Again, you can only get in trouble for answering 11.c. As "No" if your INTENT is to defraud the government. Since you believe that you are fully restored according to your letter, then you honestly answer "No" with the intent to provide the letter as clarification if you are denied. You have no intent to defraud anyone. Therefore, there is no crime being committed by answering "No" and you should feel free to do so the same as any of us would.
Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem." (I prefer the tumult of liberty to the quiet of servitude.). Thomas Jefferson
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."
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