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Old 04-15-2012, 08:57 AM   #131
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I believe in the devine finger of God. I only have to look at something with the miracle of sight to confirm my belief. There is no way man is the highest authority in the universe, although it would be human nature to think so.

I also believe John 3:16. Redemption on all levels is very much a human need. We are a flawed creature in most everything we do, our relationships and lifes choices, nobody gets it right all the time. God gave his only begotten son so we could be saved. Our spouses and children for give our short commings. In turn we as people should recognize our transgressions and how we have effected the ones we love and correct the behavior. Just as important we need to give forgiveness to those who have wronged us. Forgiveness, in my opinion is most important for the person who gives it. Sometimes the hardest person to forgive is yourself.

Forgiveness must be asked for. You are not required to forgive if they don't ask for it. Just like you won't be forgiven by God if you don't ask for it.
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Forgiveness must be asked for. You are not required to forgive if they don't ask for it. Just like you won't be forgiven by God if you don't ask for it.
The whole idea of being forgiven just because you ask for it seems ludicrous to me, i'm sorry but i think forgiveness is something you have to earn.
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Old 04-15-2012, 09:55 AM   #133
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The whole idea of being forgiven just because you ask for it seems ludicrous to me, i'm sorry but i think forgiveness is something you have to earn.
I agree.

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Forgiveness must be asked for. You are not required to forgive if they don't ask for it. Just like you won't be forgiven by God if you don't ask for it.
Yes, you must repent and accept christ in your heart.

As for forgiving others I don't know they have to ask me for the forgiveness. I can forgive someone who I feel has wronged me in the past but is no longer in my life. It is more for my heart than their ears in that circumstance.

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So what you're saying, is that if you don't accept one of the youngest religions known to humanity, then you're damned to an eternity of pain and misery? Would you like to purchase a bridge in new york?

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Yes, you must repent and accept christ in your heart.

As for forgiving others I don't know they have to ask me for the forgiveness. I can forgive someone who I feel has wronged me in the past but is no longer in my life. It is more for my heart than their ears in that circumstance.

While you hold a grudge, the other person is out dancing.
I didn't say you couldn't forgive them I said you are under no obligation to forgive unless they ask for it.
By the way repent, means asking for forgiveness.
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There is a section for that kind of talk. Take it there.

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There is a section for that kind of talk. Take it there.
I gotta agree, i kinda miss when this was a thread about aliens and not bearded guys in the sky
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I know I contributed to it, but this thread has gone way far afield.

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