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Old 11-16-2013, 01:30 PM   #91
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Those Pawn Star Shows: They close the store when taping wont put you on camera unless you have something special that they can give you a history lesson. If you want to be filmed bring in a Volcanic or a Griswold.

What chaps my hide are gun owners who are not giving instruction to their spouse about the disposition and value of their collection. Happens every day.
i agree. there are plenty of people who would take advantage of a widow who has no idea as to the worth of her husband's gun collection and pay pennies on the dollar for really nice guns.

my wife does shoot and she enjoys shooting and some types of guns i own. but she is not into them as i am, and would really know their worth if something were to happen to me. personally i have taken steps that will her a more informed seller is she decides to get rid of any in the event i am gone, and protect her from being taken advantage of.
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YES! This breaks my heart! We have a drughead in our family who hocked every gun my grandpa and my uncle left behind when they passed away. Every one but the few my Dad managed to grab. And he stole a couple of my dads a few years later. My grandpa fought in the Korean War and my Great Uncle fought in WW2. They had some amazing pieces of history that were eventually going to make it to the wall of my living room, and now they are gone forever.
I can't even imagine. Had this happen to a close friend who is 6'2 215# and a tough sob. When he told me about it a couple years ago he was visibly shaken and almost came to tears. He went to every pawn shop and LGS in the area and was able to buy a few back, but most were gone. Only time I've ever seen the guy emotional, it really broke his heart to be betrayed like that.
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Grammar NAZI? The way I see it is this: The left wing, anti-gunners frequent this and other gun sites. They LOVE to cut and paste posts with poor grammar. To them it proves we are all knuckle dragging neanderthals. No one with an education would own a gun. To them the lack of punctuation is proof of our ignorance. Let's put our best foot forward and not give them any more ammunition.
I have always Agreed with this Robo. I usually put my "Liberal" friends to shame in debates over civilian Gun ownership. I have even "Converted" a few. My closest Friend from my Teaching gig, who's wife introduced me to mine, now wants to shoot when he comes to visit me, and wants to become an owner, if the socialist state of NY will let him...(my words).
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The left wing, anti-gunners frequent this and other gun sites. They LOVE to cut and paste posts with poor grammar. To them it proves we are all knuckle dragging neanderthals. No one with an education would own a gun.

To them the lack of punctuation is proof of our ignorance. Let's put our best foot forward and not give them any more ammunition.
Agreed. I'm on board.
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YES! This breaks my heart! We have a drughead in our family who hocked every gun my grandpa and my uncle left behind when they passed away. Every one but the few my Dad managed to grab. And he stole a couple of my dads a few years later. My grandpa fought in the Korean War and my Great Uncle fought in WW2. They had some amazing pieces of history that were eventually going to make it to the wall of my living room, and now they are gone forever.
My Brother(the living one). Not a drug head, but worse, pious and stuck up. Holds me resp. For every "wrong" in his life, because he can't blame himself or place that blame on my late Parents. Didn't get to the guns, but burned my orig. Box with my military Decorations, and stole 2 of my vintage guitars, a 1960 Gibson SG, and a 1964 Rickenbacker teardrop guitar,...plus absconded with the family "Plot" of NFL seasons Tickets....
He is not worth my trouble to travel to the state of Mass. Just to punch his lights out...
We have not spoken in almost 8 years, and I have taken steps to protect the remainder of my properties from getting into his grubby hands...good riddance to bad garbage...
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I also hate seeing the ones who sell grandpa's 1911 he carried in combat or dad's first deer rifle to get a new Glock or AR15. Also, the ones you see on Pawn Stars selling valuable family heirlooms for gambling money or because the wife/girlfriend is tired if looking at it.
The most depressing posts I see on this or other forums are the first post form someone asking the value on an older gun. This usually means someone's parent, grandparent, whatever died and they want to sell off the stuff. Sure it's their right to not want the stuff. It just makes me sad to think something was kept for so long then handed down just to get sold off. I guess the one comnforting fact is maybe th eone buying it will take proper care of it and all but a good bit of history is lost forever. And you just can not replace that. THe most precious tihng in my collection is an old beat up Triumph single shot 12 gauge. The stock is cracked, no but plate, and it shows it's age really well. But it was my Dads. I remember him using it when I was little. He died and I found out that somehow my mother had it and had really neglected it. I took it home where it's taken out and cleaned, oiled and looked at to remember those old stories.
The idea that someone could just sell off those memories really makes me sad.
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The most depressing posts I see on this or other forums are the first post form someone asking the value on an older gun. This usually means someone's parent, grandparent, whatever died and they want to sell off the stuff. Sure it's their right to not want the stuff. It just makes me sad to think something was kept for so long then handed down just to get sold off. I guess the one comnforting fact is maybe th eone buying it will take proper care of it and all but a good bit of history is lost forever. And you just can not replace that. THe most precious tihng in my collection is an old beat up Triumph single shot 12 gauge. The stock is cracked, no but plate, and it shows it's age really well. But it was my Dads. I remember him using it when I was little. He died and I found out that somehow my mother had it and had really neglected it. I took it home where it's taken out and cleaned, oiled and looked at to remember those old stories.
The idea that someone could just sell off those memories really makes me sad.
when the time comes that my brother and i inherit our fathers and grandfathers guns, i already have a fair idea as to there worth in monetary value, but in terms so sentimental value, their worth would be beyond comparison. a few of them i have done some research on them for my father because he was interested in the history of them. a couple were even subjects of some of my pasts posts here on the forum.

my only problem is that even when i inherit them, i have no heirs to leave them to, and only hope that in the event of my passing, they will end up in the care of someone who will appreciate what the represented to me and my family.
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The most depressing posts I see on this or other forums are the first post form someone asking the value on an older gun. This usually means someone's parent, grandparent, whatever died and they want to sell off the stuff. Sure it's their right to not want the stuff. It just makes me sad to think something was kept for so long then handed down just to get sold off. I guess the one comnforting fact is maybe th eone buying it will take proper care of it and all but a good bit of history is lost forever. And you just can not replace that. THe most precious tihng in my collection is an old beat up Triumph single shot 12 gauge. The stock is cracked, no but plate, and it shows it's age really well. But it was my Dads. I remember him using it when I was little. He died and I found out that somehow my mother had it and had really neglected it. I took it home where it's taken out and cleaned, oiled and looked at to remember those old stories.
The idea that someone could just sell off those memories really makes me sad.
There is another reason for wanting a value on old guns. As trustee for my parents estate I have to have a rough value of everything they own. This is not only for the trust valuation purposes, but also for insurance reasons and making the split fair when the time comes to execute the trust. I also imagine more than one of the people asking for a value would need it for homeowners or renters insurance.

Have a little faith. Not everyone is out to dump memories to the highest bidder.
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NOT being sentimental does not have to be a negative thing. And some people are sentimental about certain things, but not others. If my father was into guns, but I wasn't, what makes anyone think there would be emotional ties to his guns? Good for those people for trying to figure out that they're worth, and seeing that they find a new home that will love them and take care of them, and possibly turn them into THIER family's heirlooms.

It's not sad, it's reality.
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