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Vikingdad 07-23-2013 08:23 PM

You Think Electric Vehicles Not Viable? Think Again.
 
An electric bike wins overall motorcycle class at Pike's Peak International Hill Climb!

http://m.digitaltrends.com/cars/electric-motorcycle-takes-charge-at-pikes-peak-race-shames-even-gas-powered-rivals/

http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1085148_pikes-peak-electric-car-contenders-how-they-finished

orangello 07-23-2013 09:02 PM

http://www.badboybuggies.com/sport.html

Not cheap, but very cool and less noise and smell to scare the deer.

TruggieTex 07-23-2013 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by orangello
http://www.badboybuggies.com/sport.html

Not cheap, but very cool and less noise and smell to scare the deer.

Yes. They are cool and there is certainly a market ready for them when the product and price is right. These are almost twice what a comparable Polaris Ranger runs and I can fill mine up with gas at my no-power camp.
When the battery life/service improves and the price drops, I will go that way!

limbkiller 07-24-2013 12:03 AM

I love a huge carbon footprint myself. Two degrees in Geology and find the global warming thing a complete joke. We are years away from green energy being viable. It cost a fortune to charge them stupid vehicles.

Vikingdad 07-24-2013 02:11 AM

I have a totally affordable 12.5 kW solar power system on my house that is "paying for itself" by offsetting my normal energy costs. No electric or plug-in electric car yet, but it will happen. My best friend has a completely off-grid house and shop that has a 10 kW solar power system and also has a Nissan Leaf that he charges off of solar. No cost at all to him to charge the car. If you are on-grid the cost per mile for propelling the car is less than 4 cents a mile. For a comparable gasoline powered car the fuel costs are 10 cents per mile and higher. This is not including engine maintenance costs which are not a factor with electric vehicles. Also, brake wear is significantly less due to the regenerative braking in an electric car so that further reduces the operating costs.

I have many friends who have electric vehicles that are charged via solar power. It is viable and becoming more and more competitive with gasoline power ever day. To say that green energy is not viable and that it costs a fortune to charge them is painfully ignorant of the reality. On that last point an all-electric vehicle can be charged for a couple of bucks, versus how much does it cost you to fill your tank?

I am not saying that everybody needs to run out and replace their favorite car with an electric car by any means. if you have a very long commute then an electric is not for you (especially if you can't charge it at work).

I have a friend who got a Chevy Volt. He has used 9 gallons of gas in 10,000 miles. That puts his gasoline costs at $.0036 per mile. The best part is that he is not at all constrained by the limited range of an all-electric platform. He has become so enamored with the electric cars that he is replacing the Volt with a Tesla Model S all-electric sedan when the lease is up on the Volt in 2 years. By that time Tesla will have charging stations installed all over the nation so range will not be a problem.

c3shooter 07-24-2013 02:17 AM

Engines that burn air are at a disadvantage when you are 14,110 above sea level


*GASP! PANT! WHEEEZE! *:eek:

Vikingdad 07-24-2013 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by c3shooter (Post 1313283)
Engines that burn air are at a disadvantage when you are 14,110 above sea level


*GASP! PANT! WHEEEZE! *:eek:

That they are my friend! I have been up Pike's Peak and it was quite taxing on my lungs, and I was in excellent shape at the time! No wonder that naturally aspirated IC vehicles are a rarity these days and rarely make any news at Pike's.

JonM 07-24-2013 12:14 PM

Soon as someone comes up with a way to manufacture batteries that dont dump billions of poumds of waste more toxic than spent nuclear fuel rods into the environment and cost equal to gas power with the same or better maintenance cost and the same charge times as filling at the pump im there.

There is a reason cheverolet makes all their volt batteries in china. In china there is no epa telling em they cant dump their toxins into the rivers...

rockratt 07-24-2013 02:52 PM

I moved from Colorado Springs in Aug of 04 and went to the hill climb. At that time the road was still dirt from Halfway camp ground to the top. Looks strange paved all the way to the top. Also that year there was an electric car ran up and that thing was impressive. When they announced an electric car I thought this is going to take a while but that thing was moving as well as it's fossil fuel powered brethren.

orangello 07-24-2013 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by limbkiller (Post 1313116)
I love a huge carbon footprint myself. Two degrees in Geology and find the global warming thing a complete joke. We are years away from green energy being viable. It cost a fortune to charge them stupid vehicles.

I hope your work dumps tailings on bear nurseries.

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Originally Posted by Vikingdad (Post 1313277)
I am not saying that everybody needs to run out and replace their favorite car with an electric car by any means.

I just want aftermarket "booster wheel" kits to let me add electric rear wheel drive to my lil 4banger (and the suspension upgrade and the brake changes and the ...). The increase in acceleration would be phenomenal.
http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2012/08/06/student-hybrid-car-project-could-bring-millions-to-tennessee-university/ That is a year old article.
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Originally Posted by c3shooter (Post 1313283)
Engines that burn air are at a disadvantage when you are 14,110 above sea level


*GASP! PANT! WHEEEZE! *:eek:

Nothing belongs that high up but cages for bears.

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Originally Posted by JonM (Post 1313630)
...There is a reason cheverolet makes all their volt batteries in china. In china there is no epa telling em they cant dump their toxins into the rivers...

Sounds good; let's pollute the heck out of China, Russia, all of the 'stans. Send them some rabid bears too!

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Originally Posted by rockratt (Post 1313708)
I moved from Colorado Springs in Aug of 04 and went to the hill climb. At that time the road was still dirt from Halfway camp ground to the top. Looks strange paved all the way to the top. Also that year there was an electric car ran up and that thing was impressive. When they announced an electric car I thought this is going to take a while but that thing was moving as well as it's fossil fuel powered brethren.

I think that hill climb should be made more challenging by the use of live bear anchors..."all the way up; you stop it'll eat you".


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