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cpttango30 04-16-2009 01:58 AM

You know we are getting screwed by the car companies
 
Look at fords Australian web site they have some sweet lookin cars down there. why do our cars look all the same and they get to have nice looking cars.

Ford Australia


Cars

dunerunner 04-16-2009 02:02 AM

Because their cars don't have to meet USDOT regulatory requirements!! Our Government making the world safer one regulation at a time!!

Like the Carver!! http://www.carver-worldwide.com/Movies/LoadMovie.asp?S_ID=64&nc=1

http://www.carver-worldwide.com/UplF...2006164237.jpg

http://www.carver-worldwide.com/UplF...2006164237.jpg

mpd8488 04-16-2009 02:09 AM

The U.S. has been stuck with the ****tier cars for a while now. Not only do we get very few of the V8 RWD cars that are sold in Australia (The GTO being one exception), we don't get any of the badass trucks and 4X4s that land rover, toyota, and all the other foreign makes produce. Oh and why the hell can't we get a BMW 1 series hatchback?

This is the one that really peeves me- Jeep doesn't offer their diesel engine in the Wrangler that they sell to everywhere outside of North America.

cpttango30 04-16-2009 01:09 PM

I am not a big fan of diesel engine but If it were going to same me some money in my car I would get it.

dnthmn2004 04-16-2009 01:17 PM

I would definitely want my SHTF 4x4 to be a diesel. You could potentially make your own moonshine fuel when all the gas stations have been sucked dry. Correct?

BillM 04-16-2009 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dnthmn2004 (Post 95316)
I would definitely want my SHTF 4x4 to be a diesel. You could potentially make your own moonshine fuel when all the gas stations have been sucked dry. Correct?

Not correct. Moonshine fuel would be alcohol. Works in a gas engine,
not in a diesel.


USDOT, EPA, DEQ, NTSB. Meeting all the government regulations adds
to the price, stifles innovation, and delays new models entering the marketplace. Same basic reason there haven't been any new refineries
built, manufacturing has left the country, and the price of NFA full auto
guns has gone through the roof-------our government and it's rules.

mpd8488 04-16-2009 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dnthmn2004 (Post 95316)
I would definitely want my SHTF 4x4 to be a diesel. You could potentially make your own moonshine fuel when all the gas stations have been sucked dry. Correct?

You are probably thinking of bio diesel (not to be confused with corn ethanol). I'm not so sure about modern low-sulfer diesel engines, but the conversion is relatively straight forward on the older ones.

A diesel would be an ideal SHTF engine b/c they tend to be more reliable, more efficient, more durable, and better tuned for towing/hauling and off road situations.

Dillinger 04-16-2009 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mpd8488 (Post 95443)

A diesel would be an ideal SHTF engine b/c they tend to be more reliable, more efficient, more durable, and better tuned for towing/hauling and off road situations.

Not to mention that they run at much colder temperatures and that diesel is REALLY hard to make go boom. Always a plus in my book.

Land Rover turns out a sweet diesel in their Range Rover series that gets sold by the crap load to the middle east. I would love to have one of those.....

Oh yeah, Land Rover's American service departments can lick my sack....:mad:

JD

cpttango30 04-16-2009 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dillinger (Post 95447)
Not to mention that they run at much colder temperatures and that diesel is REALLY hard to make go boom. Always a plus in my book.

Land Rover turns out a sweet diesel in their Range Rover series that gets sold by the crap load to the middle east. I would love to have one of those.....

Oh yeah, Land Rover's American service departments can lick my sack....:mad:

JD

The only thing you have to worry about with diesel is it jelling at low temperatures.

dirtbikingdad 04-17-2009 03:20 AM

That Ford Falcon looks pretty good. We were talking today at work about how the Fords are so bland and GM cars are pretty stylish or for the younger generation. Pontiac has several nice looking cars, but to be honest, when I sat in a G6 the other day and closed the door, it felt cheap. The foreign cars, if there still is such a thing, they do not feel that way. This summer, we'll be buying either a Civic, G6, Mazda 3, or some other car in that group for my son to take to college. I'll spend more for a Civic, but I think it would be a better car a year or two older and with 30,000 miles than a new or almost new Cobalt or even a G6. It's hard to believe that, me bing the American car guy that I am, but today, I have to spend what money I do have as wisely as possible. Right now, I am leaning toward Honda or Mazda.

Sorry to stray from the thread.... just thinking out loud... But, this country is over controlled by government regulations (OSHA, CPSC, Department of Labor) both in the products and the work place. In my opinion, I think a lot of the regulations are pushed by manufacturers of the equipment that makes things "safe". Here is the real problem: It is about to get way, way worse. This only means that things are going to cost much, much more to service and manufacture.


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