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Old 10-22-2012, 08:49 PM   #41
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years ago a friend let me shoot some of his 30-06 AP rounds ... put them through a 1" thick steel plate from about 50yds


You think they'd make it through 1 1/4" or 1 1/2"? Remember, these are hand loads, so I can play with them and make them hit harder, or hit faster.
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Mild Steel or Hardened Steel? There is a big difference. I would suggest NOT firing at Hardened Steel unless is through the porthole of a substantial barricade...

On a side note, I happened to haul an old gas BBQ up the mountain a few years beck and a buddy happened to bring some 12 G breaching rounds. They appeared to be loaded with metallic powder and I'm told there for cutting through deadbolt on doors.

I don't know about deadbolts but after donning leather gloves, goggles, face mask, and hard hat..."just in case"...I discharged one of these breaching rounds into the tube steel leg of said BBQ at a distance of about 2". It cut a oval penetration large enough to put 4 fingers through...

I'm guessing it works pretty good on dead bolts too.

Oh...and yes, I did haul the "well ventilated" BBQ back down off the mountain.

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Mild Steel or Hardened Steel? There is a big difference. I would suggest NOT firing at Hardened Steel unless is through the porthole of a substantial barricade...

On a side note, I happened to haul an old gas BBQ up the mountain a few years beck and a buddy happened to bring some 12 G breaching rounds. They appeared to be loaded with metallic powder and I'm told there for cutting through deadbolt on doors.

I don't know about deadbolts but after donning leather gloves, goggles, face mask, and hard hat..."just in case"...I discharged one of these breaching rounds into the tube steel leg of said BBQ at a distance of about 2". It cut a oval penetration large enough to put 4 fingers through...

I'm guessing it works pretty good on dead bolts too.

Oh...and yes, I did haul the "well ventilated" BBQ back down off the mountain.

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It's probably going to be scrap metal that I find lying around. If it looks like it was from something that needed hardened steel, I'll probably toss it. I will also be shooting at it from 100 yards away, and have it angled downward so that any rickosheas/fragments will be directed into the ground.
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I dunno. If I had to get $, I'd say any scrap metal you shoot with 30-06 AP is going to get a hole clean through it

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Soft point 30-06, about 100 yards, more like 80-90.

Notice that it blasted through the welds too... That's not a weld joint, ie a weak spot... That's a practice weld...

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My personal favorite..... The infamous Black Talon Deep Penetrator. you can't hardly find these for less than 50 bucks any more. They supposedly banned them. Aka cop killer

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It's probably going to be scrap metal that I find lying around. If it looks like it was from something that needed hardened steel, I'll probably toss it. I will also be shooting at it from 100 yards away, and have it angled downward so that any rickosheas/fragments will be directed into the ground.
Good plan.

Safety, gentlemen, is paramount.

Also, I don't want anyone to blow off any ammo that is irreplaceable. Spare stuff, sure, but don't crack open a box of something uber-valuable.
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Quik-Shok by CCI. it's a high velocity .22 round, 32 or so grains, that is scored into 3 equal pieces of lead. upon impact, the leaflets separate and go their own way. pretty dynamic lil bullet for a .22. DO NOT shoot small game with them, unless head shootin them. and if you are gonna head shoot them, don't wast Quik-Shok ammo.

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You think they'd make it through 1 1/4" or 1 1/2"? Remember, these are hand loads, so I can play with them and make them hit harder, or hit faster.
as clean as the hole was in the 1" ... maybe. It was a friends Garand, kicked like a mule, but was a beautiful rifle
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CARTRIDGE, CALIBER .30, ARMOR PIERCING, M2
Type Classification:
OBS - MSR 11756003.
Use:
Machine Guns, Caliber .30, M37, M1919A4 and
M1919A6; and Rifle, Caliber .30, M1.
Description:
ARMOR PIERCING Cartridge. The cartridge is
identified by a black bullet tip.
Function:
Penetration, fired at 7/8-inch thick homogeneous
armor plate at 100 yards, will be not less than 0.42 inch.
Performance:
Chamber pressure ....................54,000 psi
Velocity .....................................2715 fps, 78 ft from
muzzle
Tabulated Data:
DODAC.....................................1305-A202
UNO serial number ..................0012
UNO proper shipping
name .....................................Cartridges for
weapons, inert
projectile
Weight ......................................424 gr
Length.......................................3.34 in. (84.8 mm)
Tracer .......................................NA
Primer.......................................Percu ssion
Fuze..........................................NA
Explosive:
Type ......................................NA
Weight ...................................NA
Incendiary:
Type ......................................NA
Weight ...................................NA
Propellant:
Type ......................................WC 852
Weight ...................................55 gr
Projectile:
Weight ...................................165.7 gr
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