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mrwatch 10-30-2007 03:29 PM

Wild fires
It is tragic to see all the loss in the California wild fires. It would be interesting to hear how the home safes held up or protected the guns and other belongings. The man at Dicks Sproting goods showed me a safe said to be water proof or resistant due to water from fire hoses getting inside.

longshot 10-30-2007 04:05 PM

I would bet most of the safes didn't make it through. The Omega rating on most gun safes will hold up for only a short time in a house fire. In California the fires burned with such intensity the the average gun safe, probably most of the high-end models even, became a melting pot for any of its contents.

cpttango30 10-30-2007 08:09 PM

I doubt any safe could make threw one of them fires. I grew up in california I remember sitting on the roof of the house watching the hills burn all summer long. I remember my father coming home after working for weeks on end repairing Power lines. He brought home some wired stuff. Like solid steel from 95 foot tall poll's that looked as if it were in a blacksmiths fire for hours. I have see what happens to Heavy equipment that gets over run with fire. Bulldozers That have melted parts on them. I highly doubt any gun safe out there can with stand that kind of fire.

foodstr2 11-11-2007 05:42 PM

Speaking of wildfires....
...there's an interesting article about terrorists plotting those very type of fires at:

matt g 11-11-2007 05:57 PM


Originally Posted by foodstr2 (Post 11724)
...there's an interesting article about terrorists plotting those very type of fires at:

Seriously, those fires happened every year, even before there was such thing as terrorism. Don't believe all of the crap that the media feeds you.

cpttango30 11-11-2007 11:56 PM

The main reason for fires in CA is because they can not do control burns because of all the effin tree huggers.

Forest - Fires = MEGA fires.

It has nothing to do with terrorist. IT has to do with people (Tree Huggers) thinking they know whats best for the forest. as the years go on and there is no fires to burn off the leaf litter and under growth you get more and more and more built up. Then you add a dry summer and bam you have California burning to the ground.

matt g 11-12-2007 12:24 AM


Originally Posted by cpttango30 (Post 11729)
The main reason for fires in CA is because they can not do control burns because of all the effin tree huggers.

We're shrouded in smoke right now, because there are prescribed burns on 3 sides of Redding.

longshot 11-17-2007 03:40 AM

Who says tree huggers aren't terrorist? Just in a different form. Look at PETA, less than 15% of their money actually goes to helping animials and such. And then there's groups like A.L.F., they'll flat out kill someone for there cause. The fires in California could easily be linked to ecoterrorism.

moviezombie 11-18-2007 04:54 AM

i live in a forest and 2 months after we moved in in 2004 there was a very small forest fire across the road. CDF was on it: helicoptered in firefighters, dumped fire retardant on our house and the fire, etc........and they politely pointed out how if the fire got out of hand it would come up the mountain to our place. they also politely pointed out that in california effective jan 1, 2005 all property owners were to have a defensible clearing of 100 feet around their home. they also said that they won't attempt to save homes not in compliance with the law but would try to keep the fire from going beyond said home. in this area the fire danger is bad and the hills steep and wooded....and over populated with humans if the truth were to be told.

we're pretty much in compliance with that......but most of the people in this area are not. so my message is don't blame the tree huggers for the lack of responsiblity of homeowners some of which are too lazy to care for their property and don't care if they're a danger to their neighbors or the region. those of us that decide to live in the forest [or bush for that matter] also have an obligation to do so responsibly....and i see that sorely lacking in this area.

movie zombie [and yes we took down trees...but not the get that defensible space. ]

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