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Old 02-15-2011, 05:08 AM   #11
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OC is pretty common here in PA. We can actually carry a gun with rounds loaded. In order to have a loaded handgun in your vehicle, you need a License To Carry a Firearm. The good news is, in most places, if you can buy a handgun, you qualify to carry one concealed.

I carry a lot but OC seldom. Too much attention from the wrong folks in many cases.
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There are times when open carry makes sense. Just not the way those yahoos are doing it.

I often open carry often when I'm camping. However, sometimes, depending on where I'm camping, I don't. But a firearm is always nearby for predators.
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Old 02-15-2011, 09:58 AM   #13
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Here in GA you can OC or CC as long as you have a permit - and yes the guns can even be loaded. I don't OC much but I will "lazy" CC sometimes where I haven't taken great effort to conceal that I'm packing. In this part of the country OC is actually pretty common and doesn't attract much attention really. This debate generally brings our community to the point of fisticuffs as folks are passionate on both sides.

Many of the OC proponents think it's their "duty" to desensitize the public at large and "force" them to accept OC. Personally, I think this is extremely stupid.

What we, the gun loving community can never forget is we're a minority - just like the gun haters. If I had to guess, maybe 10% of the population loves guns, another 10% hates guns, and the vast majority doesn't really care. To offend the majority by being "in your face" is just plain silly - we need their votes to change bad laws as we don't have the numbers without them.

As for OC in California - this is plain stupid as displaying an unloaded gun is asinine IMHO...

(As a little basis for my guess at numbers, I did a little research a year ago that shows about 6% of GA adults have a permit to carry)

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In Ky you can carry open and also in your vehicle as long as it's in plain sight or in a glove compartment that is defined as a glove compartment. No center console or other little hiding spot. It's not considered concealed in a vehicle unless it is on you or in a place that si not in plain sight or a Glove box. And yeah...You can have it loaded. You can carry concealed on your person or in a vehicle other than a glove box with the permit.Some wont go after the permit because of the ristrictions like not being eligible if you owe child support (over some dollar amount I really can't remember)

Around here it's not really all that uncommon. THere's a guy that delivers for the local Rx that carrys open while on the road. Being the rise in pillbilly activity I don't blame him.

It does not bother me to carry open around here but if I"m out and about in other towns I will usually refrain from it just to keep LEO from feeling a need to ask me why. For some reason here the FOP rallied against the CCW permits. But it is a shall issue state as longas you jump through the hoops and not owe too much back support.
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OC and CC is legal in Nevada, with CC requiring a license. If you have a CCW you are required to only CC. There are several groups that OC on the Strip (Las Vegas Boulevard) in front of all the major casinos. They answer any questions from the tourists in this area and make the effort to "educate" those interested in why it's legal here and what gun ownership entails.

OC can be a good idea and a bad idea depending on where you're doing it.
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Here's the story.

Pa is an open carry state. I was active on a forum there, and saw the rise of the OC movement. A bunch of guys decided that since it was a right, it needed to be exercised. I can't fault that logic.

That forum would organize OC dinners. Groups of guys would meet up, go to a restaurant, have a nice dinner. The thought process was to desensitize the people who freak out at a picture of a gun. If you see them, and nothing bad happens, maybe you get over your irrational fear of them. And, after all, it's legal.

At one dinner, police were called, and a member was detained. He was clean, but that didn't seem to matter.

What ensued was some LEOs taking the stance that "Just because you're allowed, doesn't mean you should".

It then became an issue of "jack booted thugs" and "erosion of our rights".

California OC is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Why bother?

For me, I see value in exercising your rights. On the other hand, thinking tactically, not advertising gives me an edge.
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I was a longtime member and very active on a GA 2A forum (I left about 6 months ago). The OC vs CC debate got so nasty and mean that the mods would immediately lock any thread that looked like it was heading that way. The OC folks generally considered the CC folks wussies and felt it was their DUTY to force EVERYONE to accept openly armed citizens. Many of them would actively seek confrontation with LEOs to shove the "right" down their throats. The phrase "Am I Free To Go" became their call to arms.

While I truly believe in our rights guaranteed by the 2A, I also believe that being extremist is NOT a way to further our agenda. Like I've said before, I think the majority of people are gun neutral - but they could quickly become gun negative if slapped in the face and TOLD they must accept open carry...
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my personal belief on it is it is tactically stupid to open carry in public. goblins always carry concealed and always take a look around before commiting a heinous act. if they see a open carry person the OC guy is liekly to be target #1. just because goblins are mentally deficient sociopaths doesnt mean they dont prioritize.

OCing also makes you a target for robbery as getting the gun you have on display makes a tempting target. most goblins dont have a fear of guns that liberals have and are more than willing to pull a saturday nite special stick it in your gut and demand you hand over your piece.

OC in my opinion just makes you more liekly to be a victim.

however i fully support your right to OC as it will give me time and oppurtunity to get my firearm into action and it also means the goblin has that fewer bullets to launch at me after he has dealt with the OC person. so please continue to OC it makes me tactically safer.

currently in Wisconsin we have Open Carry and several court cases have been lost by the liberal authorities and payouts given to OC people harrassed by police.

im all for open carry.
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If legal, then open carry or concealed carry is up to each individual. Be glad you have the option. I fail to see any logic in carrying an unloaded gun either concealed or openly.

If I should be unaware enough to get into a shooting situation, I want the fact that I have a gun to be a complete surprise to everyone but me.
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I was a longtime member and very active on a GA 2A forum (I left about 6 months ago). The OC vs CC debate got so nasty and mean that the mods would immediately lock any thread that looked like it was heading that way. The OC folks generally considered the CC folks wussies and felt it was their DUTY to force EVERYONE to accept openly armed citizens. Many of them would actively seek confrontation with LEOs to shove the "right" down their throats. The phrase "Am I Free To Go" became their call to arms.

While I truly believe in our rights guaranteed by the 2A, I also believe that being extremist is NOT a way to further our agenda. Like I've said before, I think the majority of people are gun neutral - but they could quickly become gun negative if slapped in the face and TOLD they must accept open carry...
Same thing at mine.

OC-CC pervaded damn near every sub forum. It was the reason I left and wound up here. It was nearly to the point of "Should I OC my flintlock?"

I support people exercising their rights. I have open carried on occaision. I just found that tactical superiority took a front seat to activism. If the BG hits the convenience store, and one customer is open carrying, and the other goes CC, the BG will take out the known threat first.

To be fair, the fact that one even has to worry about being hassled for doing what is completely legal is a strong argument in favor of OC.
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