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Old 09-29-2013, 01:51 PM   #251
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Well, the fighter shooting itself down has happened.

Remember, bullets (and cannon shells) travel in an arc.

Read the story HERE: http://www.check-six.com/Crash_Sites/Tiger138260.htm

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Well, the fighter shooting itself down has happened.

Remember, bullets (and cannon shells) travel in an arc.

Read the story HERE: http://www.check-six.com/Crash_Sites/Tiger138260.htm
so that myth is busted!

thanks C3!
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I think that a guy who hides in the trunk of his car, shooting out through a hole in his car, he made to shoot through, calmly selecting his target, accompanied by another man who may or may not have been his spotter is, a sniper. I think that this fits the definition close enough. Rather than trained/skilled/professional, he was a "terrorist" sniper
The verb "to snipe" originated in the 1770s among soldiers in British India
where a hunter skilled enough to kill the elusive snipe was dubbed a "sniper".
The term sniper was first attested in 1824 in the sense of the word
"sharpshooter".

The jackasses in DC were murders.
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Well, I can tell you that that does happen. Bullets have been found on x-ray no where near point of entry in a body.
bullets do weird things, I shot a deer at about 30 yards with a .30-06, the bullet entered, hit the heart and destroyed it, & never exited. Never did find it while cleaning the deer
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Well, the fighter shooting itself down has happened.

Remember, bullets (and cannon shells) travel in an arc.

Read the story HERE: http://www.check-six.com/Crash_Sites/Tiger138260.htm
Excellent research Shooter
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The verb "to snipe" originated in the 1770s among soldiers in British India
where a hunter skilled enough to kill the elusive snipe was dubbed a "sniper".
The term sniper was first attested in 1824 in the sense of the word
"sharpshooter".

The jackasses in DC were murders.
You're nit picking. For this argument, for you,this one time, I will say that the DC sniper was not a sniper, OK? Feel better?

Now having given us your definition as, "to snipe" Are the guys who do determined long range shooting in Afghanistan, shooting at birds?

Definitions change. Three-hundred years from now, the meaning of "drive by" will be different.

Whether the shooter is government-paid, or a sick free lancer, has a certificate of skill, or a talking cat on his shoulder, they use very similar skill sets to reach the same end.

Some bad guy shooters don't fit the 1700's definition of a sniper. Neither do trained military snipers. Definitions change over time. I don't think the people on the receiving end of, what ever you call the shooter, would be able to make your learned distinction.

I content that there are people out there with long guns, that shoot people, and they can be called snipers using today's definitions.
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You're nit picking. For this argument, for you,this one time, I will say that the DC sniper was not a sniper, OK? Feel better?

Now having given us your definition as, "to snipe" Are the guys who do determined long range shooting in Afghanistan, shooting at birds?

Definitions change. Three-hundred years from now, the meaning of "drive by" will be different.

Whether the shooter is government-paid, or a sick free lancer, has a certificate of skill, or a talking cat on his shoulder, they use very similar skill sets to reach the same end.

Some bad guy shooters don't fit the 1700's definition of a sniper. Neither do trained military snipers. Definitions change over time. I don't think the people on the receiving end of, what ever you call the shooter, would be able to make your learned distinction.

I content that there are people out there with long guns, that shoot people, and they can be called snipers using today's definitions.
Dude, relax, I was not nit picking, or trying to diminish your post. Actually I
was agreeing with you, that the jackasses in DC were not snipers but murders.

I was simply adding some historical context to your point; and the entomology
of the word, "sniper." Often understanding the origin of words and language,
help in the understanding of the word and its usage.

I do suggest you work on keeping your blood pressure a bit lower or you might
find yourself heading to an early grave.
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You're nit picking. For this argument, for you,this one time, I will say that the DC sniper was not a sniper, OK? Feel better?

Now having given us your definition as, "to snipe" Are the guys who do determined long range shooting in Afghanistan, shooting at birds?

Definitions change. Three-hundred years from now, the meaning of "drive by" will be different.

Whether the shooter is government-paid, or a sick free lancer, has a certificate of skill, or a talking cat on his shoulder, they use very similar skill sets to reach the same end.

Some bad guy shooters don't fit the 1700's definition of a sniper. Neither do trained military snipers. Definitions change over time. I don't think the people on the receiving end of, what ever you call the shooter, would be able to make your learned distinction.

I content that there are people out there with long guns, that shoot people, and they can be called snipers using today's definitions.
i have my own definitions of what i call a sniper. a person who uses a certain set of skills to get within range of an objective and remove it, under stealth and concealment. like thos in the employ of the military.

IMO, the DC sniper wasn't a sniper, just a murderer. Lee Harvey Oswald, not a sniper, an assassin. killers, murderers, and assassins, maybe even doing it long range but not snipers.

these are just what i happen to think and others may have different thoughts.
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snip·er (snpr)
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1. A skilled military shooter detailed to spot and pick off enemy soldiers from a concealed place.
2. One who shoots at other people from a concealed place.

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Dude, relax, I was not nit picking, or trying to diminish your post. Actually I
was agreeing with you, that the jackasses in DC were not snipers but murders.

I was simply adding some historical context to your point; and the entomology
of the word, "sniper." Often understanding the origin of words and language,
help in the understanding of the word and its usage.

I do suggest you work on keeping your blood pressure a bit lower or you might
find yourself heading to an early grave.
Sorry, it's a blood sugar issue.
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