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Old 04-24-2013, 04:40 PM   #181
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.....tactical shotguns are cool.

what a joke. ever try to clean mud out of all those rails and corners?

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22's arent dangerous. ask robert kennedy.

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.....tactical shotguns are cool.

what a joke. ever try to clean mud out of all those rails and corners?
Just because you don't like them, doesn't mean other people don't. Coolness is based on someone's opinion. Not fact.

For example, I think that vintage hand tools and machines are cool, but that doesn't mean that everyone else does.
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To hear it from some of the Anti gun crowd?

We gun owners are uneducated,heartless,killing barbarians with no soul!!

That's what one Anti gun nut was spewing on FaceBook the other day,I don't have to read his garbage any longer...He's as they say "History!!"

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Just because you don't like them, doesn't mean other people don't. Coolness is based on someone's opinion. Not fact.

For example, I think that vintage hand tools and machines are cool, but that doesn't mean that everyone else does.
"Hey, old hand tools aren't cool, they are just old but black plastic mall-ninja gear with a built in light is the best."

"Oh yeah? I'll prove they are cool -- I dare ya to stand there and let me hit you with an antique leather-washer-gripped hammer! Besides, whenever I have no clue I'll just ignore the obvious, argue you have no facts, and pretend I won something. So there!"

These aren't even common and ridiculous myths around gun forums -- they are well known children's stories here.
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who said i didnt like them? i had riot guns for decades. real ones. ones that saw action.
cool is the myth. because there aint nothing cool about cleaning mud out of rails. or, letting your enemy know how may shells you have left in your tactical shell carrier strapped to the gun.

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and again i'll say this....whats the hype over being tactical in a civilian environment?
what are you going to do with a tactical shotgun? take down a 7/11? or fight off a possy? or raid a gangs hideout in detroit?

tactical means attack. go forward and take.

defense means to hold ground. dig in.

the myth then is...you cant have a HOME DEFENSE shotgun that is tactical. its an oxymoron.
unless of course youre on a swat team...which odds are 99.9% of you, arent.

thus its just a gimmick to sell junk. and buy it you do.

so the myth also is, tactical shotguns help you be safer.

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who said i didnt like them? i had riot guns for decades. real ones. ones that saw action.
cool is the myth. because there aint nothing cool about cleaning mud out of rails. or, letting your enemy know how may shells you have left in your tactical shells carrier strapped to the gun.
My shotgun would be concidered tactical. Not a single rail on it.

Even if there was, who really cares? The military has rails on their M4s, I'm sure they get those things muddy occasionally.

I don't understand why the shell carrier is a problem. They still don't know how many shells are in the gun, or on your person. Would they even have time to look? I'm, sure their mind would be on other things.

Plus, if you need more than 1-2 shots from a 12GA to bring an enemy down, you've got bigger problems than them seeing how many shells you have on your shell carrier.

Persoanlly, I prefer classic guns over tactical guns, but once again, coolness is based on opinion.
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and again i'll say this....whats the hype over being tactical in a civilian environment?
what are you going to do with a tactical shotgun? take down a 7/11? or fight off a possy? or hold off a gang from detroit?

tactical means attack. go forward and take.

defense means to hold ground. dig in.

the myth then is...you cant have a HOME DEFENSE shotgun that is tactical. its an oxymoron.
unless youre on a swat team...which odds are 99.9% of you, arent.

thus its just a gimmick to sell junk. and buy it you do.

so the myth is, it helps you be safer.
Tacticle may not be the correct term, but whats wrong with the gun itself?

If someone is in your house, your you rather grab an 18.5" shotgun with a pistol grip and a light attached, or a 28" O/U?
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I'm with him ill take the 18.5

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