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rn-cindy 02-17-2014 02:15 AM

Wal-Mart guns....?
 
A Wally World near me has a Marlin 336w, that has some unusually pretty furniture on it..I dont need another one, but was thinking about purchasing it as a Birthday present for someone we know...I know that some gun manufacturers will cut cornrers, and reduce quality to get down to wal-marts price point. My question is..does anybody know what to look for on a Marlin that would indicate lesser quality, or something in the serial number, etc. Or should i just avoid wally world guns all together...?

nitestalker 02-17-2014 02:18 AM

The new Remington-Marlins are not the quality of the JM Marlins. Just my opinion.:)

Axxe55 02-17-2014 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by rn-cindy (Post 1508306)
A Wally World near me has a Marlin 336w, that has some unusually pretty furniture on it..I dont need another one, but was thinking about purchasing it as a Birthday present for someone we know...I know that some gun manufacturers will cut cornrers, and reduce quality to get down to wal-marts price point. My question is..does anybody know what to look for on a Marlin that would indicate lesser quality, or something in the serial number, etc. Or should i just avoid wally world guns all together...?

the Marlin at WalMart is no different than the same gun at your LGS. Cabelas, Dick's or any other place that sells Marlins. the only difference is that some of the big sporting goods retailers, will buy a special run of a certain featured firearm from the manufacterers that are not exactly like what every one carries. but these are usually places like Dick's or Cabelas and they might buy several thousands of them for many stores. but the quality is still the same.

no, there are not any seconds made for just WalMart. that is nothing more than internet rumour and myth. WalMart can sell the same rifle cheaper, because they buy in volume and spread those guns around to many stores. they buy it cheaper than the LGS so they can sell it cheaper. WalMart make their money on volume sales.

there are some who will try to lead you to believe that WalMart sells seconds as the reason they sell them cheaper, even on this forum, but several times, i have personally asked for proof to support their comments, and nothing yet has been brought forth to prove their statements.

rn-cindy 02-17-2014 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by nitestalker (Post 1508311)
The new Remington-Marlins are not the quality of the JM Marlins. Just my opinion.:)

That could be true...I know when they moved manufacturing/lost long time skilled workers, it had a negative impact on quality for a while..There are certain serial #s you want to avoid when buying used. The Stainless 338 Express i bought last fall is flawless, smooth, and accurate, good fit and finish. Every bit as good as my old JM Marlins.

vincent 02-17-2014 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by nitestalker (Post 1508311)
The new Remington-Marlins are not the quality of the JM Marlins. Just my opinion.:)

Valid point...:cool:

Has nothing to do with the wally world...

I had the same question about the wal mart 10/22's that were so affordable, way back when...;)

I even called Ruger to find out the skinny...

Manufacturers don't make 'wal mart guns', the production line is the production line...

Wal-Mart buys products in bulk, hence the knockoff on the price...

Now the old Marlin vs. the 'Rem-Lin' thing...that's a whole other thread...;)

Sniper03 02-17-2014 02:32 AM

Cindy,

Nightstalker is correct the quality of the new Marlin 336s are not nearly the quality as the older models. I had a Marlin 336-C when I was young! Should not have sold it or traded it since I can not remember what I did. But I would like to find a good one for the right price myself made in the 60s,70s or earlier in great shape. If you want a good Marlin I would suggest you shop around and buy an older one in excellent shape. Now back to Walmart! I do not believe that "all" manufacturers reduce the quality to sell guns to Walmart. They have the volume advantage over the normal little shop or dealer which makes sense. They order several hundred and the gun shop orders 3! In the past I purchased a Marlin 917V 17 HMR Rifle and a Winchester 94 when Winchester went out of business at Walmart just to have one. *The 94 is still in the Box today! Anyway, they both are fine guns. And the Marlin 917 V 17 HMR is one of the most accurate rifles I have. And I have several very accurate rifles. So they are not cost cutter guns. Anyway if you like the Marlin at Walmart and it is reasonable buy it! As AXXE stated!

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nitestalker 02-17-2014 02:35 AM

Why hide any of the facts from a potential buyer. The lady has a right to a complete answer. :)

Axxe55 02-17-2014 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by vincent (Post 1508320)
Valid point...:cool:

Has nothing to do with the wally world...

I had the same question about the wal mart 10/22's that were so affordable, way back when...;)

I even called Ruger to find out the skinny...

Manufacturers don't make 'wal mart guns', the production line is the production line...

Wal-Mart buys products in bulk, hence the knockoff on the price...

Now the old Marlin vs. the 'Rem-Lin' thing...that's a whole other thread...;)

quite true. also Marlin went back to conventional rifling on the newer lever actions, vs. using the Micro-Groove rifling.

yes Marlin had some fitment and finish issues when they moved production to the New York facility. they got most of those issues taken care of that i have seen.

but the Walmart seconds story is nothing but bunk!

if there is an issue with the rifle, it's not because of WalMart, but Marlin's issue in quality.

vincent 02-17-2014 02:37 AM

[QUOTE=Axxe55;1508325]quite true. also Marlin went back to conventional rifling on the newer lever actions, vs. using the Micro-Groove rifling.

yes Marlin had some fitment and finish issues when they moved production to the New York facility. they got most of those issues taken care of that i have seen.

but the Walmart seconds story is nothing but bunk!

Yessir...QFT...:cool:

nitestalker 02-17-2014 02:43 AM

Does anyone have proof that large budget priced OEM runs are exactly the same as normal production. How many times do we trade out new car parts because of the budget parts and tires etc on new vehicles? These items were bought in volume for lower prices as well. :eek::D


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