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Old 07-02-2013, 08:26 PM   #51
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Yeah, you can certainly do that. Bear in mind when you go from the other branches to the Marine Corps you usually lose rank and you still have to go through our boot camp. If you start in the Corps and move over you don't have to do their basic training.

Once you're in the army, it may not be worthwhile to switch branches. But that's a decision you can make at a later time.

Best of luck to ya. I'm sure you will enjoy it regardless.
Yeah that's a downside. Reduction in rank and pay may be worth it though if I really want to be a marine. Hell, the army could be good prep for the marine corps though. It won't be as much of a culture shock if I'm already in that mindset. I guess I need to look on the bright side of things. Haha. It sucks but life goes on. Its not like I have any disdain for the other branches or anything, it was more just a personal preference.

Thanks for talkin JW. I saw that you just got stuck in SD for another 3 years. Sorry to hear it. Hope everything goes alright for you and it doesn't suck too much.
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Yeah that's a downside. Reduction in rank and pay may be worth it though if I really want to be a marine. Hell, the army could be good prep for the marine corps though. It won't be as much of a culture shock if I'm already in that mindset. I guess I need to look on the bright side of things. Haha. It sucks but life goes on. Its not like I have any disdain for the other branches or anything, it was more just a personal preference.

Thanks for talkin JW. I saw that you just got stuck in SD for another 3 years. Sorry to hear it. Hope everything goes alright for you and it doesn't suck too much.
All good points. I'm sure you'll be fine. Np, I'm gonna make the most out of San Diego. Gotta keep on keepin on.
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Top seven Benefits of the Army over the USMC...

1. In case of a firefight, the Army gets to duck & dive for cover...Marines are expected to soak up the bullets like sponges.

2. Army rarely has anything to do with ships...

3. Better benefits.

4. Faster rank.

5. Better pay.

6. USMC = Unconstitutional Slavery Made Constitutional, Uncle Sam's Misguided Children, U Signed the MF'ing Contract, etc...
MARINE = Muscles Are Required, Intelligence Not Expected, My A$$ Rides In Navy Equipment, etc...

7. I couldn't join the Marines, my Mother knew who my Father was.


All that being said, there are two major benefits the Marines have over the Army...

1. easier access to female Marines

2. better dress uniform, Army needs to return to pre-1900's dress uni's.


And the Marines have the MF'r of all MF'rs...slot available re-enlistment...
which means, say your job is MP...and there are no MP slots, but they need cooks...
guess what...you either re-up as a cook, or you don't re-enlist. That sux.
Also has led a lotta jarheads into the Army & Navy...OFW

What the heck is it with the Anti-tattoo thing the USMC has going on these days??
Granted there's potential exposure to disease, infection, etc...but Dadgum, Jarheads are supposed to have some tatts!!
That's like seeinga Navy guy with no ink...freekin wierd!!

And Army guys can still catch Female Marines...I oughta know, I married a redheaded Gunny...
evidently I'm a glutton for punishment...LOL

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The Military really only includes one MOS.... everythings else is "support"

So... Be a soldier, or be a Pouge... Make your choice and live with it.

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Top seven Benefits of the Army over the USMC...

1. In case of a firefight, the Army gets to duck & dive for cover...Marines are expected to soak up the bullets like sponges.

2. Army rarely has anything to do with ships...

3. Better benefits.

4. Faster rank.

5. Better pay.

6. USMC = Unconstitutional Slavery Made Constitutional, Uncle Sam's Misguided Children, U Signed the MF'ing Contract, etc...

7. I couldn't join the Marines, my Mother knew who my Father was.

All that being said, there are two major benefits the Marines have over the Army...

1. easier access to female Marines

2. better dress uniform, Army needs to return to pre-1900's dress uni's.

And the Marines have the MF'r of all MF'rs...slot available re-enlistment...
which means, say your job is MP...and there are no MP slots, but they need cooks...
guess what...you either re-up as a cook, or you don't re-enlist. That sux.
Also has led a lotta jarheads into the Army & Navy...OFW

And Army guys can still catch Female Marines...I oughta know, I married a redheaded Gunny...
evidently I'm a glutton for punishment...LOL
*ahem* oh here we go.

1. Maybe we're expected to but only because every Marine is actually trained how to react in a firefight. Therefore by "soaking up the bullets," as you put it, we're actually doing the duty and job of someone in the Armed Forces - engaging the enemy and returning fire, rather than hiding like a hooah. Um I mean soldier.

2. Can't dispute that.

3. Maybe tangible benefits such as bonuses. Our pay is the same, our federal benefits are the same. So really you have bonuses, which are quickly drying up anyway due to downsizing and no one having funds. Otherwise, we have intangibles - honor, pride, esprit de corps, commitment, a sense of belonging... Shall I continue?

4. Depends 100% of the time on MOS for either service. I will say when it is harder to earn rank, you tend to appreciate those ranks even more. Also, Marines entrust younger leaders more for small unit leadership. Example: in the Marine Corps an E4 (Corporal) is an NCO, whereas an E4 in the Army (typically a Specialist) is not. A specialist can be laterally promoted to a Corporal, and some people consider it an NCO. Most Sergeants and above I have talked to in recent months tend to just believe Army Corporals aren't NCOs - they're the *****es of the real NCOs. No ambiguity about a Corporal in the Corps - always NCOs.

5. Not true. All base pay is the same across the board, for all services. The difference lies in bonuses which I have already touched upon. Hell, even "special pay," such as FLPP, submarine, flight, etc is the same across the board.

6. Never heard the first one, but the others are quite common. Can't argue. Also, I don't know that they're insulting.

7. Har har har we gotta funny man over here. It's such a blatant joke I can't even respond.

In terms of your points for the Marines:

1. Ehhh not always a good thing. Usually isn't, matter of fact.

2. 100% agree

And I would add:

3. Tip of the spear: first in, last out.

4. Better cammies (modern day). Please tell me what the BDUs are exactly supposed to blend into besides rocks?

5. Better training on the service rifle. We shoot from 200, 300, and (yes!) 500 yards (actual distances, none of this smaller target at the same distance BS). Also, as i already touched on, EVERY Marine is proficient on the rifle and basically trained for combat.

6. We guard the embassies and the President (whomever he may be at the time).

7. The Marine Silent Drill Platoon. Enough said.

8. Air Force women are affectionately known as "Marine Corps Mattresses"

9. We have a smaller budget, worse equipment, and are approximately half the size of the Army yet we have always done a better job and are generally called on when the hooahs mess things up. Or when you absolutely, positively, have to destroy everything overnight.

10. Our Mascot vs the Army mascot:



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Go, Air Force, the foods better, schools are better and you even get to get free flying. Maybe into a battle zones, but they are not shooting bullets at you, just rockets or missiles. And if you get into the Drone corp you get to sit in FL and shoot missiles at Pakistanis, oh wait they are our allies, oh well they all look the same from 10,000 feet. (LOL)

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Great, I've started a battle of the branches. Haha. I know each branch has their benefits and different jobs and I have to find which one suits me best. At this point it's between army and marine corps, and the marine corps is out of the question for now.

As far as the tattoos and the marine corps, I think a lot of people are confused by it. It seems that their reputation doesn't quite match their tattoo policy. But in the end it's up to them. They have an image they're going for at this point in time and it doesn't include tattoos. But the army isn't against tattoos so o'll have to compromise. Not too bad of a compromise though.

One thing I can say for sure though: the marine corps uniforms will blow the other branches out of the water any day. Not many can dispute that. When I went to their office today there was a guy who just got out of SOI wearing what I believe is the summer dress uniform? Short sleeve tan shirt. And I was jealous.

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*ahem* oh here we go.

1. Maybe we're expected to but only because every Marine is actually trained how to react in a firefight. Therefore by "soaking up the bullets," as you put it, we're actually doing the duty and job of someone in the Armed Forces - engaging the enemy and returning fire, rather than hiding like a hooah. Um I mean soldier.

2. Can't dispute that.

3. Maybe tangible benefits such as bonuses. Our pay is the same, our federal benefits are the same. So really you have bonuses, which are quickly drying up anyway due to downsizing and no one having funds. Otherwise, we have intangibles - honor, pride, esprit de corps, commitment, a sense of belonging... Shall I continue?

4. Depends 100% of the time on MOS for either service. I will say when it is harder to earn rank, you tend to appreciate those ranks even more. Also, Marines entrust younger leaders more for small unit leadership. Example: in the Marine Corps an E4 (Corporal) is an NCO, whereas an E4 in the Army (typically a Specialist) is not. A specialist can be laterally promoted to a Corporal, and some people consider it an NCO. Most Sergeants and above I have talked to in recent months tend to just believe Army Corporals aren't NCOs - they're the *****es of the real NCOs. No ambiguity about a Corporal in the Corps - always NCOs.

5. Not true. All base pay is the same across the board, for all services. The difference lies in bonuses which I have already touched upon. Hell, even "special pay," such as FLPP, submarine, flight, etc is the same across the board.

6. Never heard the first one, but the others are quite common. Can't argue. Also, I don't know that they're insulting.

7. Har har har we gotta funny man over here. It's such a blatant joke I can't even respond.

In terms of your points for the Marines:

1. Ehhh not always a good thing. Usually isn't, matter of fact.

2. 100% agree

And I would add:

3. Tip of the spear: first in, last out.

4. Better cammies (modern day). Please tell me what the BDUs are exactly supposed to blend into besides rocks?

5. Better training on the service rifle. We shoot from 200, 300, and (yes!) 500 yards (actual distances, none of this smaller target at the same distance BS). Also, as i already touched on, EVERY Marine is proficient on the rifle and basically trained for combat.

6. We guard the embassies and the President (whomever he may be at the time).

7. The Marine Silent Drill Platoon. Enough said.

8. Air Force women are affectionately known as "Marine Corps Mattresses"

9. We have a smaller budget, worse equipment, and are approximately half the size of the Army yet we have always done a better job and are generally called on when the hooahs mess things up. Or when you absolutely, positively, have to destroy everything overnight.

10. Our Mascot vs the Army mascot:

And finally:
OK i'll give you the MASCOT because i love BULLDOGS....
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Actually recently there was a changing of the guard. Old Chesty retired and new Chesty took the reigns.



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Actually recently there was a changing of the guard. Old Chesty retired and new Chesty took the reigns.
Yes I saw that!! Working with Bulldog rescue groups, we seem to hear about these things....Does he live at the Commandant's residence??
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