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Old 12-19-2013, 05:37 AM   #161
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I agree that I'm just being basically trained, I just thought I'd have a harder time I guess. Haha. I know it does get physically harder after basic training, but I think basic should be harder. Even still there are several people I know will be getting sent home or recycled in my platoon because they can't pass their pt test. I already passed the final pt test standards on my diagnostic test. 229/300. That was 2 or 3 weeks ago. I'm shooting for 270 by graduation.

As far as leave, it feels weird to take it before I graduate. But the alternative was to stay back, get put in a different unit for two weeks and get taken on field trips like high school or something. Plus if I didn't, I would be able to see my family for 8 months. And I'll admit, I actually miss them.

Don't get me started on discipline and delinquents. There are some real winners, especially in my platoon. It makes you wonder why they joined. I wasn't prepared for that, or at least not on the level I've witnessed. But there's not really anything you can do except stay away and not let them bring you down.

Funny story, our former platoon guide made a list of the worst people in our platoon. The most disrespectful ones who blatantly ignored directions and talked in formation constantly. He gave the list to our senior drill sergeant thinking they'd get in trouble or counseled, but he instead made them all squad leaders, guidon, assistant platoon guide, and the worst one got platoon guide. That sucked. We all suffered, until she got fired this morning for standing by and watching as the rest of the platoon got corrective training.

I guess that's life. Lol.
Wait. Am I missing something? They're letting males and females train together now, or are you female and I completely freaking missed something?
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Old 12-19-2013, 07:42 AM   #162
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Wait. Am I missing something? They're letting males and females train together now, or are you female and I completely freaking missed something?
They let females train with males. They're with us all day except when we go to our bays. I'm not a female. Lol.
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I actually like the Sr Drills promoting the Slugs to SL's and such. Often, something like that would either make them sh!t or get off the pot and quickly. Sad the whole platoon will pay temporarily for that but in the long run you probably will be better off! Your ex- PL should be whacked for handing in the list of slugs, thats nutz, wtf, If im your PSG, she's fired instantaneously and if Im in the platoon, she is shunned at best, other at worst! Slugs are best dealt with internally, "Talking in Formation is so 1st week", if they didnt get the hint by week 2, maybe they need a little "special attention", a little peer pressure goes a long way. Thats what your Drill is looking for, teamwork not kiss asses (Unless things have really changed that much, say it aint so!!!!). I dont suggest blanket parties, rolling them up and down the stairs or scrubbing them with toilet brushes (Prolly frowned on now adays), but there must be something you can do to encourage "reasonable participation" isnt there?

So different than 1980, The only woman in out boot were 2 of the ugliest Drill Sergeants you ever saw! Ours had nice ta-ta's but if you got caught looking at them, god help you! We werent even allowed to read a newspaper, no radios or tape players, the dayroom didnt have a TV or Radio nor did we ever spend a minute in it in 8 weeks, I got to make phone calls 3 times in 8 weeks and that meant waiting in line then talking for 3 minutes or less. It was a total news blackout (We had 50 American hostages in Iran!). Now your blogging from Basic, thats amazing! All I can say is you have 8 weeks to learn and absorb an entire careers worth of background, make sure you keep your eye on the ball! There will be lots of time to chat it up after you earn your US Army Patch. Sounds like your doing great keep it up, god bless you and all your Plat buddies!

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Wait. Am I missing something? They're letting males and females train together now, or are you female and I completely freaking missed something?
He's in Army basic training. Not Marine boot camp. No worries, males are still separated from females for us.

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Now your blogging from Basic, thats amazing!
He's not in basic right now. He's home on leave for the holidays.

(Don't get me wrong - its very odd to me that he is on leave halfway through basic)
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I'm glad I joined the army, but I feel like there are more knuckleheads than in the Marine Corps. I haven't been through boot camp obviously, but I don't see a drill instructor letting recruits get away with some of the jackassery I've seen.
Its probably the same ratio of good to bad. There's just a lot more of the bad in the army because its a larger service.
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He's in Army basic training. Not Marine boot camp. No worries, males are still separated from females for us.

He's not in basic right now. He's home on leave for the holidays.

(Don't get me wrong - its very odd to me that he is on leave halfway through basic)
Trust me, I wish males and females were separated in basic training too. But I joined the army, they didn't join me. Lol.

And leave half way through basic is weird. But regardless of whether or not I came home, I wouldn't be training. Everything stops so drip sergeants can go home. They do it in summer time too apparently. That's not to say I'm not going to enjoy the break. Who wouldn't? But I'd be just as happy if they didn't do holiday block leave because I would graduate sooner.
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I was shocked to see an update to this thread, wasn't expecting to hear from you for another month. That's crazy that you got let out for the holidays, unheard of in the Corps. I spent Thanksgiving in Boot and Christmas in MCT, (Marine Combat Training) in a eff'in fox hole at Camp Pendleton! As for females training with males, forget it. That's waayyy to much of a distraction for both sexes, which does say something about the distinction between the Marines vs Army discipline level. Talk in formation or class in Marine basic, stand the eff by! I looked around in the class room one time and our kill hat blindsided me with a slap to the face. The senior pulled me in the duty hut later that day and asked me about it, and I didn't say ****! I was too freakin scared of getting smoked everyday to rat on him.
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WF: I went through Basic, WOCS, and began Basic Flight the year before you. I could have " Borrowed" time to go home for the whole 8-9 days, but I chose going home for just NewYears. Never had any contact with female recruits, and there were only 3 out of our 124 person class @ WOCS...and none in Basic flight...but you know, things we still a bit different back then.....
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Seriously, you're on holiday vacation from boot camp Things have changed dramatically since my time. LOL

The 2 things I remember most about basic. Was always being tired, never a moment of complete rest. And Dbl timing (read running our ass off) everywhere we went.
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Seriously, you're on holiday vacation from boot camp Things have changed dramatically since my time. LOL

The 2 things I remember most about basic. Was always being tired, never a moment of complete rest. And Dbl timing (read running our ass off) everywhere we went.
Yessir. It's pretty ridiculous. I won't lie and say I'm not enjoying being home an seeing my family, but this is extending basic by 2 weeks. I just want to graduate and move on to ait in sunny Arizona. Lol.

And we hardly run at all. So you probably wouldn't recognize basic, were you to do it again. Not my choice, and I can't change it.
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