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GonzoLonzo 06-24-2012 05:56 AM

Utah Governor blames gun shooters on wildfires
 
First off, sorry if this has been posted or if its in the wrong section. Anyways, this article seemed to be more about gun control than actual fires. This got we wondering, can the spark from a round hitting rocks cause a fire? I've never seen it happen but was curious as to what you guys might think.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/47934760/ns/us_news-christian_science_monitor/

trip286 06-24-2012 05:58 AM

I've seen tracer rounds start fires, but not regular stuff. Imagine it's perfectly possible though.

texaswoodworker 06-24-2012 07:33 AM

If a round hits something and causes a spark, then yes, it is extremely easy to start a fire. Being able to prove that it was caused by a shooter is extremely difficult though.

Axxe55 06-24-2012 07:40 AM

yes it could happen under the right conditions, low humidity, lack of recent rain and dry materials. a spark if it ignites some dry material could cause a fire. but in all proabablity, lightning or people being careless with fires would be a bigger concern.

rjd3282 06-24-2012 10:14 AM

I don't recall ever seeing sparks from bullets bouncing off anything, except in hollywood. I think the governor is imagining things. Maybe he's just another liberal in republican clothes.

Polygon 06-24-2012 10:42 AM

I live in that area. My brother and his family were evacuated because of one of these fires. So far it's been 20 fires in about a month. I don't know if all 20 they're blaming on target shooting really are, but I know about a few of them and it's just amazes me how stupid, or possibly careless some people are.

One fire I know was started by some morons shooting at exploding targets. The conditions right now are VERY dry. Regardless, shooting exploding targets on BLM land is NEVER legal. These guys deserve to have their guns taken away and sold at auction in my opinion.

I speculate the rest are being caused by people that just aren't thinking. Shooting at metal targets, using steel jacketed ammunition, and using rocky backdrops. Then again, who knows. Maybe they're using tracers too. All I know is it's making me mad because it's giving the rest of us a bad name. I've had to set quite a few people straight in the last couple of weeks. I also fear they're going to impose an outright ban on target shooting this year.

I was planning on doing to shooting on my family vacation in July at Flaming Gorge. That might not happen now. :mad:

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Originally Posted by rjd3282 (Post 847500)
I don't recall ever seeing sparks from bullets bouncing off anything, except in hollywood. I think the governor is imagining things. Maybe he's just another liberal in republican clothes.

I don't know why people think this. When hitting a hard surface such as metal or rocks copper or lead can spark. Perhaps, it's hot fragments of lead or copper that's being perceived as a spark. Regardless, either can start a fire.

jjfuller1 06-24-2012 11:38 AM

i have seen lots of range fires from shooting. so its definatly possible. however being able to pinpoint the actualy cause of the fire seems a little harder. and i highly doubt that all of the fires came from shooting. i mean do you know how many people smoke cigerettes and then do the flick?

winds-of-change 06-24-2012 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by rjd3282 (Post 847500)
I don't recall ever seeing sparks from bullets bouncing off anything, except in hollywood. I think the governor is imagining things. Maybe he's just another liberal in republican clothes.

I do all of my shooting in the daytime. There probably are sparks when hitting metal targets but you sure wouldn't see them in the day.

Ranger-6 06-24-2012 11:54 AM

What are the chances at tracer ammunition could start a fire.

jjfuller1 06-24-2012 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Ranger-6 (Post 847549)
What are the chances at tracer ammunition could start a fire.

sarcasim should be like this ;P


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