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Old 04-23-2012, 02:13 AM   #1
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Default U.S. Army places order for 24,000 M4 carbines with Remington

This was posted on Air Force Times website.

http://militarytimes.com/blogs/gearscout/2012/04/20/us-army-places-order-for-24000-m4-carbines-with-remington/

It was bound to happen. The U.S. Army has been buying M4 carbines exclusively from Colt since 2002 (though the first Colt M4 contract was awarded in 1996). But, as of 18:20 today, Remington Arms has been added to that dance card. The question is whether Colt retained a portion of the contract. It appears they havenít, but itís hard to tell from the published documents.

According to the Department of the Armyís Chief of Legislative Liaison, the Army today executed a delivery order on an existing contract to buy 24,000 M4/M4A1s worth $16,163,252.07. The order comes as line 001 on an IDIQ contract for up to 120,000 carbines worth $83,924,089.00, though U.S. Army Contracting Command lists the ďMax Potential Contract Value $180,000,000.00.Ē The rifles will be made at Remingtonís factory in Ilion, N.Y., from the Colt technical data package and, by my math, will cost about $673 a copy. Thatís a hell of a group buy price.

This news is just hours old so Remington, and likely Colt, are still spinning up the PR machines. I spoke with two Remington Arms employees who confirmed the contract award but hadnít been cleared to make a statement on behalf of the company.

I havenít heard from Colt, yet. But I expect them to be fairly quiet until the protest period has ended. I did speak with one industry executive Saturday morning that suggested Colt is already close to itís production capacity. He mentioned the 2009 M240 and M249 contract awards as major contributing factors.

Any of you that were about to buy milspec parts for your guns, nowís a good time. Iím sure Remington is about to go on an OEM parts buying binge. While they will likely forge their own upper receivers, lowers receivers, bolt, bolt carrier and barrels, they will have to subcontract for small parts such as ejectors, extractors, fire control groups, springs, pins just as Colt does.
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Jesus, 120,000 M-4's Are they planning on re-arming every soldier in the Army, National Guard and Reserves? 180 Billion? Have they not heard we are in a recession? Hopefully Remington shuts down the NY plant. NY does not deserve to get that much cash influx. Get a HUGE contract and move out of state. That ought to send Comrade Schumer into a tail spin!
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There is 1.2 million soldiers, so they need a lot more than 120k.
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I know we had two wars going on. Is there a point where it's not worth the time and trouble to replace the worn parts on the used ones? If not, what happens to them?
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Well Obama and Holder are going to sell direct to the Mexican Cartels and cut out all those middle men.
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I know we had two wars going on. Is there a point where it's not worth the time and trouble to replace the worn parts on the used ones? If not, what happens to them?
Some old parts get DRMO'ed (Defense Reutilization and Management Office) and other to depot for refreshing and back into inventory.

http://www.govliquidation.com/index.html
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The best info I can find is 507,000 US Army. 1.5 Mil total armed forces.
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Jesus, 120,000 M-4's Are they planning on re-arming every soldier in the Army, National Guard and Reserves? 180 Billion? Have they not heard we are in a recession? Hopefully Remington shuts down the NY plant. NY does not deserve to get that much cash influx. Get a HUGE contract and move out of state. That ought to send Comrade Schumer into a tail spin!
180 Million not billion. That's also a potential max not a required amount, this is no different than DHS buying ammo in bulk.

I am curious if parts will truly be interchangeable between the colt and remington versions.
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will they all have that Bushmaster roll mark since Remington sucked up Bm?
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I thought the Army was contracting FN to make most of their M4s nowadays. Didn't know Colt was still doing it.
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