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Old 07-30-2012, 01:09 AM   #11
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Here's an idea...
How about we list every gun law they broke?
I'll start with the most obvious, guns on school property. Now, the law may have been different back then, do I'm taking a gamble on it.

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How about we list every gun law they broke?
I'll start with the most obvious, guns on school property. Now, the law may have been different back then, do I'm taking a gamble on it.
1999, i kind of doubt you are wrong on that.
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I am curious how your average CCW carrier would fare against being shot at with an AR-15, in a dark, smoke filled room full of people who are in various states of panic...

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I am curious how your average CCW carrier would fare against being shot at with an AR-15, in a dark, smoke filled room full of people who are in various states of panic...
how would the shooter have reacted if maybe someone with a CCW had fired at him? might have saved some lives, might not have. i don't think we will ever truly know the answer to that question. but i am an optimist and would like to think that an armed person with an CC, might have either slowed the shooter down until LEO's arrived or have him run off in fear for his own life because he was being shot at.
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I am curious how your average CCW carrier would fare against being shot at with an AR-15, in a dark, smoke filled room full of people who are in various states of panic...
I'm not average I don't think but I'd shoot the sob. Iv been gased 3 times in boot. They gave up when they couldn't make me sick.
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The comparison...
Average azzhole attempting mass murder...
Average citizen with a ccw permit...
My bet is on the average citizen with a permit, and I'll tell you why in a couple of very simple and easy to understand statements.
Those of us who like guns, generally like SHOOTING guns, therefore, likely have more practice.
Last count I heard there were at least 4 military personnel in the theater (I think there were more than that). Everyone in the military goes through some type of marksmanship training.
Not every sailor is a rifleman, I know, but still...
Also, mass murdering azzhole is looking for easy targets. Do any of these people EVER attack a gun free zone because they think someone is actually going to fight back? Hell no. He would have paused at the least, and fallen down into the fetal position crapping his pants at the most, with THE VERY FIRST round coming back at him.

He was untrained. The fact that he had four guns on him screams that to me like a banshee.

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The comparison...
Average azzhole attempting mass murder...
Average citizen with a ccw permit...
My bet is on the average citizen with a permit, and I'll tell you why in a couple of very simple and easy to understand statements.
Those of us who like guns, generally like SHOOTING guns, therefore, likely have more practice.
Last count I heard there were at least 4 military personnel in the theater (I think there were more than that). Everyone in the military goes through some type of marksmanship training.
Not every sailor is a rifleman, I know, but still...
Also, mass murdering azzhole is looking for easy targets. Do any of these people EVER attack a gun free zone because they think someone is actually going to fight back? Hell no. He would have paused at the least, and fallen down into the fetal position crapping his pants at the most, with THE VERY FIRST round coming back at him.

He was untrained. The fact that he had four guns on him screams that to me like a banshee.
There is enough active and reserve Marines in civvies that he would be screwed if they was armed. "Every Marine is a rifleman"
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I agree with him on this one, I don't always agree with the man but I love him just the same, he's one of my favorite people of all time but sometimes he can fall off his rocker so to speak.



Just like any of us can from time to time.


I've met him a few times, one time when I was about 13 and he gave me some good advice about a problem I was having and he seemed to genuinely care and listen, I didn't realize it then only later, how nice and honest he actually is.

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I am curious how your average CCW carrier would fare against being shot at with an AR-15, in a dark, smoke filled room full of people who are in various states of panic...
Good question...Impossible to tell from here but maybe a little better than a CCW carrier who's roscoe was in the car...
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Good question...Impossible to tell from here but maybe a little better than a CCW carrier who's roscoe was in the car...
Both of you have good points but just to reiterate, possibly not very well but better than without.
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