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wittmeba 08-29-2013 03:54 PM

Stolen identity
 
Two days ago they had a real story on 60 Minutes of a lady whos identity was stolen. She worked for 5 years trying to get someone to listen to her and didnt get any help.

We will call her Mrs. Jones (her real name).

Her bogus name Mrs. Smith.

I wonder if Mrs. Smith went out and robbed a bank or committed some other crime how long it would take them (the law enforcement) to identify her as Mrs. Jones?


I could see the headlines now by the LE: "Mrs. Jones you are under arrest".

Mrs. Jones replies, "Im not Mrs. Jones, Im Mrs. Smith. Mrs. Jones is over there (pointing to the one whom stole her identity)".

notdku 08-29-2013 04:11 PM

It's one of the under appreciate crimes which is odd considering the amount of attention it gets.

DeltaF 08-29-2013 08:03 PM

Not "under appreciated" it's just hard to deal with. Identity theft is hard to stop hard to solve and hard to prosecute. Just making the arrest usually requires extradition from another state, sometimes its impossible to arrest them because they commit the crime from another country. Large agencies usually have entire divisiosn dedicated to financial crimes and they are always backed up with cases because they take so much time to work.

orangello 08-29-2013 09:10 PM

As a income tax and payroll tax preparer, I can tell you I see more and more income tax returns rejected from electronic filing each year with the "duplicate SSN" error. It is my strong suspicion that a lot of uninvited immigrants of the illegalo persuasion are filing fraudulent tax returns under SS numbers they have bought or stolen for the purpose of getting a job. The feds are trying to track it with a program (E-Verify) that checks I-9 forms and W-2 forms submitted to the feds against a federal database, but i'm not seeing much in the way of activity/invetigations. I think the applicants know more about the process than the employers in many cases.

What is really aggravating is the lack of a standard process for people whose returns are rejected as "duplicates" to pursue their imitators in the courts. IRS tells the taxpayer to notify their local LEO's, but here, the Sheriff's department had no idea how to respond other than to recommend the taxpayer contact the state attorney general's office for further disappointment.


"Oh, you were counting on a big tax refund due to your hard work, numerous offspring, and over-withholding? Sorry, Juan Doe needed your SSN to get a job at the chicken rendering plant and has already filed for HIS refund. You will have to paper file and wait for it to be reviewed and approved." IOW "TS, suck it."

CrazedJava 08-30-2013 02:51 PM

As a victim of identity theft I can tell you it would be relatively easy to crack down on if it weren't for how we tend to ID people.

Your SSN is considered the ultimate identifier, yet places that have no use for it ask for it all the time. You don't need a SSN to APPLY for a job, you just need it to verify you are a resident. There is no reason you should be writing that down. I know that is how my wife's identity was stolen and could even identify where it happened (and you could probably narrow down who the likely suspects where) yet the cops just kind of shrugged the whole thing off.

Doctor's offices don't really need it. You have my insurance and my credit card. What more do you need. Treat me already.

Credit reports should not be so damn easy to pull. This is a major source of identity theft. There are so many different ways your credit can be pulled and sometimes without your consent. Once those reports are pulled, anyone who can get to it has access to all kinds of personal information including your finances, job history, residency history, etc. If I wanted to pose as someone the first thing I would do is try and pull their credit history.

What do I wish I had known before my identity was stolen?

1. Be paranoid. Don't give out personal information unless absolutely necessary. Guard your SSN with your life. If there is not a legal requirement to turn over identifying documents, don't do it. Potential employers don't need to see your passport or your SSN until they are ready to make an offer.

2. If you suspect even for a second someone might have personal information they shouldn't, get a fraud alert placed on your credit history. It will make your profile much less appealing to a thief.

3. Never ever give personal information over the phone to someone you can't verify. Same with email. Check return email addresses. When in doubt, find the company website and get official contact information. If it is a company you don't recognize, do some research. Your good name may depend on it.

4. Lock down all public profiles. Have LinkedIn? Great, keep your contact info to your first level contacts only. Lock down Facebook to friends only. Remember that everything on Twitter can be used against you. Don't broadcast crucial information to the whole world.

wittmeba 08-30-2013 03:10 PM

Great comments!

My original post was directed more toward the fact the lady could not get help getting her identity back.

I just thought - What if she committed a crime? How quickly would someone jump in to clearly identify her by her right name, SS, address and every other detail.

CrazedJava 08-30-2013 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by wittmeba (Post 1351613)
Great comments!

My original post was directed more toward the fact the lady could not get help getting her identity back.

I just thought - What if she committed a crime? How quickly would someone jump in to clearly identify her by her right name, SS, address and every other detail.

I have a whole stack of documents to deal with this. Unfortunately, whoever stole my identity has indeed committed all kinds of theft and fraud. That has made it difficult sometimes when applying for jobs.

When debt collectors call though, I offer to email them the information, which includes police reports, FCC complaints, all kinds of stuff I have collected to protect my name. For some reason, despite being 2013, they still want to fax it.

Ok, hope you just put more paper in it!

DeltaF 08-30-2013 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by wittmeba
Great comments!

My original post was directed more toward the fact the lady could not get help getting her identity back.

I just thought - What if she committed a crime? How quickly would someone jump in to clearly identify her by her right name, SS, address and every other detail.

Not very quickly. Unless there were fingerprints on file already. And even if they did, in all official documents they would in most instances list her under whatever name was used in the official arrest report and booking documents with her other identities as "aliases" to tie her to crimes committed under other identities.

orangello 08-30-2013 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DeltaF (Post 1351629)
Not very quickly. Unless there were fingerprints on file already. And even if they did, in all official documents they would in most instances list her under whatever name was used in the official arrest report and booking documents with her other identities as "aliases" to tie her to crimes committed under other identities.

Who was the comedian aka "tater salad"?

DeltaF 08-30-2013 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by orangello

Who was the comedian aka "tater salad"?

LOL! Ron White!!!


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