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Old 01-12-2014, 04:46 AM   #11
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The deal with any robbery, is unfortunately, unless they just catch a lucky break, there really ain't a damn thing the police or anyone else can do about it.

I'm sure we all know, but I'll point it out. Some of the best things to do, is have your sh!t secured. All a damn lock does is keep honest men honest. Invest in a safe if you have a goodly bit of small easily transportable valuables or guns. I laugh at the portable safes. It's like a comedian pointed out, "what's the point? So the burglars can take it back to their lair and crack it open at their leisure?"

Cameras. If you got 'em, make sure they work. If you can't afford one, a fake one may serve as a deterrent, or a game/trail camera will work. Priority areas are avenues of approach, i.e., hallways! (If you have one hallway in your house that accesses several rooms, that hallway NEEDS to be covered. You WILL likely get the perp on camera!) Doors that enter or exit from the home. Garages. It doesn't do much good to have a camera on a hidden corner under the eave, aimed at the driveway. We've all seen the surveillance footage from these I'm sure, and it's absolutely worthless. It amounts to, "yep. That's a person alright. Looks like a male." and that's about all you can usually make out. Now, I used to work for Cisco Systems in Raleigh/Durham NC, and their cameras were AWESOME! We caught an employee cheating on his wife in the back of an SUV in the parking lot, and were able to read the freaking time on his wristwatch! The camera was mounted on a light pole about 30 yards or so away.

Invest in stronger doors and windows. This is expensive, and not foolproof. NOTHING will stop a criminal who's determined enough, but the harder you make it, the more likely they'll be to hit an easier target. The competition shooter mentioned above likely wouldn't have benefited from this if the perps KNEW he was a hardcore competition shooter.

Clear the cover away from your house. Remove the shrubs and hedges, especially, or at least, away from the windows and doors. If your neighbors happen to drive by while a break in is in progress, they may see and call the police. THIS HAS HAPPENED BEFORE!!! There's no telling how many robberies have been foiled by a well intentioned neighbor. I've had one call the police on me while I was breaking into my own home. I'll tag on the story at the end of this post. But also, removing the growth from around the doorways serves another purpose: People have been accosted by attackers while leaving or attempting to enter their own homes, by perps hiding in the bushes next to their doors. Don't give criminals a place to hide, and remain situationally aware even on your own doorstep.

Security lights. They're annoying as FU(K when you're trying to sleep and that joker's shining in through your bedroom window. Suck it up and buy some heavier curtains. Your neighbors can't see someone breaking in and call the police while you're out of town if they can't... see.

Home alarm system. Most of them cover something like 2 doors and a likely window, that's it. Know what your system covers, and either upgrade, or compensate in some fashion. I don't advocate booby trapping your home because I'm pretty sure it's illegal as hell and will put you in prison, but I know this much, if someone breaks in through my backdoor, they'll WISH they HADN'T, and that's all I'll say on that matter. Except that if they are wily enough to take the first step into my home, then the second, they'll likely be done walking on the third. I've got near infinite bayou. Find the body, I dare ya, but be mindful of them gators. So... Find SOMETHING to compensate.

Can't afford an alarm system? There are other options... Stickers and signs. If you ain't got a system, you can make them think you do. You can usually sweet talk ADT or BRINKS into giving you some for free. I mentioned booby traps earlier. That was more in reference to lethal booby traps. It's perfectly legal in every place I know of to booby trap your home with audio recordings of loud ass dogs going ape chit. Get creative. There are also timing systems for lighting and TVs and such. Everyone has a smart phone these days (most everyone anyway) and you can even control these from smartphones. On that note, you can access many cameras from them. My sister and I got our mom and step dad a game/trail cam for Christmas. As mentioned on the earlier post about a camera, it automatically uploads to an online server, where they can view the pics from the comfort of their home. My step dad has it set up so that he gets a notification on his phone, and just the other night he was showing his coworkers "hey, look what's standing right in front of my camera right now..."

Car alarms!! In the case of a home invasion robbery, and you happen to be home, keep that key fob nearby! If you hear someone breaking in, you can hit the panic button on that key fob to set off your car alarm, and it MAY scare them off. As always, be prepared for the worst, hope for the best. Also, be mindful, I don't know about all car alarms, but I know mine won't go off unless the door is opened from the inside after being armed. This means that if you bust the window out, you can take whatever you want in silence (except for the sound of busting the window) as long as you don't open that door!

Of course there are many more, but I don't know them all.

On valuables... You want pics and serial numbers of everything you own of value that can be walked off with. Duh. I'm sure that goes without saying. But think of this... What about that toaster or microwave? No one ever thinks about those... My hair clippers were stolen when I was robbed. IF I'd thought to record the make, model, serial, and take a pic, and IF the dirty rotten cock suckers had tried to sell them at the local pawn shops, THAT could have been the lucky break I mentioned earlier that could have led to me recovering the heirloom ring I inherited from my grandfather, valued at around 3 grand. ANYTHING that is good for ten bucks at a pawn shop, you want to record the info on it. If you're robbed, YOU do the footwork. Obviously, give all the info to the police, but do you think they're going to check with the pawn shops weekly for a stolen toaster or hair clippers? They will forward at least some of the info to the local shops (around here, they have an app for that, don't remember what it's called, but it makes it easy for them to share the info with ALL the shops via a simple messaging system, similar to "reply all" in an email). But oh, no, the police ain't got time for all that. Carry your ass to the local pawn shops and peruse the shelves. Get to know the staff, explain what's up, give them the list of stolen items yourself, in person. And don't neglect your local thrift stores either. They gather little to no information on people that make donations, but they may have security cameras if you happen to find my damn hair clippers on the shelf.

So. I'm done with that for now. I invite anyone and everyone to add to it. Maybe a moderator will see fit to make this it's own thread? Who knows.

So, the story on the neighbor calling the police on me. I was around 14, and a pudgy bastard, have been since puberty. It's always been a standing policy at the home I grew up in, when you've been playing in the snow or mud or anything else that just gets nasty, you strip to your skivvies on the back deck, shove the clothes in through the laundry room window, and then come on in and go clean up.

On one of the, oh, I dunno, 3 days of snow we had that particular year, I'd been out playing in it, and got filthy (it's about as much semi frozen mud as it is snow in North Mississippi). I followed procedure, but then realized I'd locked myself out of the house. I knew my keys weren't in my pocket, and the laundry room window was too small for anyone to fit through anyway (part of the reason no one ever bothered locking it. Also, we kept a cheap stereo on the windowsill for outdoor entertainment) So, I meandered my freezing cold, barefoot, fat ass around to my dad's bedroom window, which I knew was always unlocked, because he like to smoke pot in his room and let the smoke blow out the window (he knew I'd steal his stash if I found out he had any), plus, his window was ten feet off the ground, so he just KNEW no one would break into it. But then there's me...

so, I'm in my tighty whiteys, barefoot, freezing... I pull the garbage can under his window, grabbed a stick and pushed it open, then hauled my fat ass up. Got about halfway through, and got stuck.

The neighbors called the cops. They relayed the commentary to me. "Some fat ass naked guy on drugs or some sh!t is breaking into my neighbors house!"

Yeah... They just gave me a good hard shove after letting me hang there a few minutes explaining myself.
Great post! +1000!!!

I would like to add one thing though. Safes. Get the best you can afford. You don't need a huge Fort Knox safe, but if you can afford it, it would be a good investment. Alternatively, if you can't afford much, you could look into a cheap locking cabinet ($100-$200. Any more can get you a decent, but small long gun safe). They WON'T stop a determined criminal, but for the average idiot wanting to make a quick buck, they could act as a deterrent. Just make sure to BOLT THEM TO THE GROUND. This goes for any safe, no matter how heavy.

Gun safes are not just for guns. Keep your checkbooks, credit cards, prized possessions, and valuable/important info in them too. A criminal could easily mess up your life if they were to get a hold of these things.
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I've got a couple guns I would just be absolutely sick if they were stolen and a a safe is my next purchase. I'm tired of having that gut feeling every time I leave the house. I wish I was buying and not renting and made decent money so I could afford a nice servalance system with heavy doors and windows. But so help me god if
I'm ever robbed and I catch the mother****ers in the act. Lawful or not it'd b hard not to pull the trigger. The biggest thing I hate is a ****ing thief, go get a god dammed job....


Sorry for the strong feelings, I really hate thieves lol

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I've got a couple guns I would just be absolutely sick if they were stolen and a a safe is my next purchase. I'm tired of having that gut feeling every time I leave the house. I wish I was buying and not renting and made decent money so I could afford a nice servalance system with heavy doors and windows. But so help me god if
I'm ever robbed and I catch the mother****ers in the act. Lawful or not it'd b hard not to pull the trigger. The biggest thing I hate is a ****ing thief, go get a god dammed job....


Sorry for the strong feelings, I really hate thieves lol
You only said what I feel, man.

I've said it before, given a choice of one or the other, I'd rather be shackled for life to a cold blooded murderer than a thief. At least I can somewhat respect the murderer.
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You only said what I feel, man.

I've said it before, given a choice of one or the other, I'd rather be shackled for life to a cold blooded murderer than a thief. At least I can somewhat respect the murderer.
Oh I would too. Just something about a dam thief makes my skin crawl, hate them
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Oh I would too. Just something about a dam thief makes my skin crawl, hate them
They're no better than a child molester, a rapist, or a druggie in my book. And a coward to boot. If someone's going to rob me, I'd have more respect for them if they'd at least do it in person, by force. Give me a chance at killing the mother ****er at least, instead of breaking into my SANCTUARY while I'm not there to defend it.

I've heard that getting robbed is emotionally traumatic in the same way as being raped. While I'm sure it's a much different kind of trauma, and totally don't intend this as a "belittling", so to speak, of rape victims, I believe the argument on the similar emotional impact has to be true.
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My family got robbed back in the late 60's. Lived in the boonies, didnt think of locking the house and were away for Easter. They mostly took the guns. 5 months later, they actually recovered all but a couple of them and the police brought them back to us! I always wondered what kind of time the POS bastards that did that did and hoped it was long and painful!

That is the only type of Gun Legislation I would ever entertain, committing any physical crime with a firearm or stealing anyone's firearm should double the punishment!

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My family got robbed back in the late 60's. Lived in the boonies, didnt think of locking the house and were away for Easter. They mostly took the guns. 5 months later, they actually recovered all but a couple of them and the police brought them back to us! I always wondered what kind of time the POS bastards that did that did and hoped it was long and painful! That is the only type of Gun Legislation I would ever entertain, committing any physical crime with a firearm or stealing anyone's firearm should double the punishment!
It usually does carry a much nastier penalty and a higher bond as well.
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It usually does carry a much nastier penalty and a higher bond as well.
It should be a stunning punishment, were already equated with vermin scumbags because we both have guns, they deserve to find out just how different we are! I dont say every liberal is a pedophile just because they have a penis! Its what you do with the tool thats punishable or impeachable, not the fact one has a tool.
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Well the police told my sister that they usually do pretty good recovering firearms but I think thats a load of crap. They took the gun and two mags but left a box of bullets sitting right next to it and the holster. All I can say is criminals are dumb.
Pretty good, compared to what? Since most firearms are serialized, there is hope of recovery IF you have the serial number. Stolen guns stay in the NCIC computer FOREVER.

Compared to, say, cameras? How many folks have the serial number for their camera? Property like that gets purged from NCIC after 2 years.

I have recovered a number of stolen firearms over the years. I returned a rifle to its owner after 37 years. He was still alive and lived in the area so I could find him.

Recovered a Mauser Hsc to its owner even though he had moved to the PNW from the Austin area.

Recovered a Ruger revolver to its owner even though the original agency ha not bothered to enter it in NCIC (small, incompetent agency, but that is another story). One of our Patrol officers arrested a guy in possession of it. Trace through ATF gave me an original purchaser. Had a hard time tracking him down, but found his father and left a message. Found that he had given the gun to a girl friend. Tracked her down to Lake County Indiana. Found she had reported it stolen several years earlier to a small PD just south of Austin. They took the report and sat on it. The Chief got an ear full from me and she got her gun back.
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My family got robbed back in the late 60's. Lived in the boonies, didnt think of locking the house and were away for Easter. They mostly took the guns. 5 months later, they actually recovered all but a couple of them and the police brought them back to us! I always wondered what kind of time the POS bastards that did that did and hoped it was long and painful!

That is the only type of Gun Legislation I would ever entertain, committing any physical crime with a firearm or stealing anyone's firearm should double the punishment!
It does. In Texas the simple theft of a firearm is automatically a Felony. Conviction brings a life long firearm ban.

I prosecuted a car burglar. Hit close to a hundred cars, but that is only a misdemeanor. Two of the cars has handguns stolen. Filed 2 counts of Theft of a Firearm. Convicted, only served 90 days, but was then a Felon. I made it clear to him that if I ever so much as found his finger print on a gun, I would make sure he did 5 years in Federal Prison. Never got to fulfill that promise, he was a passenger in a car evading the police (about 6 months later). Car lost control, hit a tree, dead felon. And new felon as the driver caught 2 felony counts
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