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Old 09-20-2013, 03:38 AM   #11
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During the Irish Revolution 2 Irish snipers had 240 confirmed kills using the C96 Mauser Pistols with detachable shoulder stocks. The "Brits" were armed with the .303 Enfelds. The 7.63 X 25 cartridge carried a 90 Grs. FMJ at 1,400 Fps. many of the kills were at 100 yards. The Irish referred to the Broom Handle Mauser as "Peter the Painter" . Old Peter mad it rough on the Red Coats.

These were serious battle weapons for 2 world wars and many revolutions.
dont forget han solo used one too. he put down lots of dudes in armor suits with a c96
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dont forget han solo used one too. he put down lots of dudes in armor suits with a c96
Hans was a good man with a pistol.
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You would probably be in trouble with the pistols at 50 yards? With a pistol you're shooting at body mass and hoping to get a hit. With a rifle you're picking the spot you want to hit. Add a few trees or other obstacles in the way and it would be tough with a pistol.

I've used a pistol and hunted a lot with a target pistol years ago. They can be effective but I'll take a rifle every time over a pistol, but I'm also extremely comfortable with a rifle.

Now if you just really suck with a rifle then it's a different story.

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You would probably be in trouble with the pistols at 50 yards? With a pistol you're shooting at body mass and hoping to get a hit. With a rifle you're picking the spot you want to hit. Add a few trees or other obstacles in the way and it would be tough with a pistol.

I've used a pistol and hunted a lot with a target pistol years ago. They can be effective but I'll take a rifle every time over a pistol, but I'm also extremely comfortable with a rifle.

Now if you just really suck with a rifle then it's a different story.

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Do trees get out of the way with a rifle? A pistol is flexible and fast handling. And, in a firefight, you guys are aiming for a headshot each time?
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People not familiar handguns believe they are only good at short ranges. Shooting at mass at 50 yards? Not really practiced hand gunners with proper weapons can be very effective at 100 yards. I would suggest you attend some handgun competitions.

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And, in a firefight, you guys are aiming for a headshot each time?
You don't?
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I like the M1A idea,,,, I would not want to wait for a group of aggressors to get within 50 yards of me before I felt confident returning fire, if such a situation should arise. To me, a rifle is a far superior to a handgun and in some situations, a shotgun can be better than either. I just as soon not have to find out but it pays to be careful and prepared.

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People not familiar handguns believe they are only good at short ranges. Shooting at mass at 50 yards? Not really practiced hand gunners with proper weapons can be very effective at 100 yards. I would suggest you attend some handgun competitions.
I have. Used to shoot bullseye, and later attended a combat pistol course at the Texas Pistol Academy.

One of the standard courses of fire in Bullseye is 50 yards. And I do have a bolt or lever action for distances longer than 50 yards; it not my only weapon, just my primary at short distances.
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You don't?

Not since that unfortunate misunderstanding that I don't like to speak about.
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Delusional? Maybe just a little. I'm partial to the 1911 as well. More range and tactical time than with anything else. Pro shooters aside, I'm as good with it as anyone I've ever seen. That said, I'm also a firm believer if there's gonna be a gunfight, I want something that takes two hands to carry/operate. A handgun, any handgun, is strictly back-up. In fact, I'd seriously consider leaving it behind to make more room for long gun ammo.
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