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Old 02-10-2013, 09:28 PM   #81
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Sorry, I did not realize the post I was looking at was not the last one. Read it again, I went back and quoted......

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I for one have all the respect in the World for Navy Seals since I have a few friends who are, and a few who were! The bottom line Law Enforcement is Law Enforcement and Seals are Seals. Both having different worlds and professional responsibilities and skill requirements. A Seal Sniper and a Law Enforcement Sniper is in two different worlds to and including Rules of Engagement! And I can not say that some police are any less skilled. This because a few years ago two LE officers were honored by being allowed to attend a complete navy seal weapons course which lasted some 10 weeks and was grueling. 10 Mile runs in the morning, PT, Field Skills and Marksmanship requirements. When the graduation ceremony was held the two Police Officers were Number One and Number Two in the entire class of some 25 people. However, the rouge retired officer who I as a Vet must respect his service to his country. But I doubt he is at the level of skill as the two LE Officers who I know personally or the skill level of the average Navy Seal! So I can not honestly say that there are no LEOs who do not have an exceptional amount of skill but not the normal LEO. I just do not think although no doubt this X-Rogue Officer had things fairly well thought out as to his objective, timing and plans for the vendetta. I find it hard to believe that his skill level is at that of excellence regarding tactics marksmanship and other field craft skills. In addition he probably is getting some support from the outside. He may very well eat his gun if surrounded or worse want to be some sort of a false marder. I would like to see his military records as well as his LEO history. And if treated unfairly he sure is going about it the incorrect way. And what he has done since leaving the agency. And what has taken place in his personal life. It is certainly sad that it came to this no matter what the reason for the victims as well as his sake. As we know under the right circumstances people can loose it! If he was wronged someone needs to be held accountable. I heard today that there has been a complete investigation ordered as to possible causes or to confirm his termination was just! We will wait and see!. But as stated wrong way to handle it. I guess he has some 40 individuals names on a hit list! That seems like too many who would have wronged him? And reflects he certainly has serious mental issues!
I pray for the victims families and for the safety of all who are targeted and involved in this operation.

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Wow. Talk about completely nuts.

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ScottA:
I'm pretty sure the guy was mocking those who push magazine bans sarcastically .

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Funny thing. The California .50 Caliber law of 2004 prohibits the sale or transfer of such weapons. All pre owned .50 caliber center fire weapons must be registered.
Surprise!! This law does not apply to California Law enforcement officers.

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Getting back to the subject :
Lately there have been a string of disturbingly illogical, irrational and suicidal murders . Sandy Hook, Dykes' killing the school bus driver, the PTSD murder of people at a party and of a Park Ranger law officer, the PTSD murder of Chris Kyle, a former police officer 50 years old shooting himself and his wife to death and no doubt many I forgot or overlooked . And now a man with training and arms has declared war on the police with the assumption he will not survive .
These things almost never happened in the 60s and 70s ; Crimes had a reason, a rational basis . I get the feeling that something is wrong in our culture and in the way people are taught to think and reason . You hear people complain about a sense of entitlement, no repect for others, lack of civility, one-parent families and dishonesty .
Maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree and the real problem is simply too many mentally ill people running loose .
When I see modern movies ( rarely ) and violent video games, I shudder at the thought that someone may be taking the stuff seriously . Mohammed and Malvo killed 15 or so people and Malvo cited " The Matrix " as the movie with all of the answers. Hinckley wanted to be the character from " Taxi Driver " . The North Hollywood shootout resembled one in a movie . Violent video games were played a lot by many of the school killers .
What is important now is to stop this man before he kills more people . It is not the time to disparage the LAPD as if they deserve this . It is time to discuss what armed citizens can do to help the police make our country safer . That can start with giving the police proper respect .
Your absolutely right. And it's about respect and the so-called "honor" amoung theives. My dad lived in Chicago during the 40's and part of the 50's and he worked in government as an alderman. He walked the streets of Cicero and in the city and there were real life gangsters there, it didn't end in the roaring 20's. He met my mother in Chicago as well. Anyway, the criminals then were respectful of citizens, they opened the door for women, took of their hats and treated everyone, except their rivals with respect. That is gone, the punks today have no respect, they are all low lifes. What changed? Movies, video games and a liberal teaching agenda is what changed. Respect isn't taught, nor right and wrong. Religion is nearly forbidden in public schools, morality is gone. And I apologize for barking up your tree as well.....
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I agree with you. There is nothing to excuse what he is doing. Now, since I got my balls busted last week by the moderators for being rude to someone, I am resisting here. But, I have, as per the moderator's requests, reported you. Twice.

Moderators: you guys have shut down threads for WAY LESS than what is going on here. Isn't it time for this one to die?

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One persons irresponsible post shouldn't shut down a thread.

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Regarding shutting down the thread: You know, re-read a lot of this thread, and may be getting it confused with another thread.

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