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Old 06-16-2008, 10:32 PM   #11
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Fox News has a story posted about a Brooklyn sex shop that's "kid friendly."

Nothing like taking a little stroll with the children and stopping by the ol' sex toy den is there! But hey! It's upscale, it's clean, it's well lighted (and probably articulate too!).

They even helpfully provided a video tour!!!!

And the mainstreaming of exposing sexual material to children continues apace....
The Europeans think we're really uptight about these kinds of things--they're much more open about sexual issues there. I was a little shocked to see families with kids strolling through the red light district in Amsterdam, but I respect the cultural differences and the rights of parents to make their own decisions in raising their kids.

It is interesting how many "conservatives" claim to believe in freedom, except when it intersects with sexual issues or non-Christian religion.
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It is interesting how many "conservatives" claim to believe in freedom, except when it intersects with sexual issues or non-Christian religion.
Speaking for myself only, of course, kids should be kept insulated from smut 'til they're of an age when they can understand it and can (hopefully) make the right decisions on their own.

While I tolerate whatever other adults choose to do to/with one another, that doesn't mean I endorse it or would join 'em. Being respectful of others' freedom is not an implicit approval of their behavior.

Europe doesn't impress me. At all.
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Speaking for myself only, of course, kids should be kept insulated from smut
'til they're of an age when they can understand it and can (hopefully) make the right decisions on their own.

While I tolerate whatever other adults choose to do to/with one another, that doesn't mean I endorse it or would join 'em. Being respectful of others' freedom is not an implicit approval of their behavior.

Europe doesn't impress me. At all.
I have to agree with bkt. I personally don't care what anyone, anywhere, wants to do with anyone else, as long as they are of age of consent. I agree that all children should be educated, especially when it comes to sex, but that education doesn't necessarily need to take place in Aisle 3 between the Bondage equipment and the titles of Jenna Jameson, does it?

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I have to agree with bkt. I personally don't care what anyone, anywhere, wants to do with anyone else, as long as they are of age of consent. I agree that all children should be educated, especially when it comes to sex, but that education doesn't necessarily need to take place in Aisle 3 between the Bondage equipment and the titles of Jenna Jameson, does it?
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I agree with both of you on this. But having carefully read the article and watched the video about the place, I just don't feel the outrage. Is it because this store is clean? Is it just the baby-changing station? Or is it just Fox News sensationalism about pretty much nothing?
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I completely agree with both of you. But having carefully read the article and watched the video, I just don't feel the outrage. Is it because this place is clean? Is it just the baby-changing station? Or is it just Fox News sensationalism about pretty much nothing?
Well then, you missed my first post where I talked about how the owner was on a local radio station and her goal is to become "like Wal*mart".

I am not outraged about it. Once again, if someone wants to take their kid there, that is there business. However, we have NC-17 movies that you CAN NOT bring someone who is under the age of 17 into, no matter who is with them. Now, I ask you, is "Flashpoint", the number 1 selling porn title of all time, the same as Eyes Wide Shut? Obviously not - and I realize that seeing the box cover isn't the same as seeing the whole movie. Save it. Have you seen a porn DVD or box title in the past few years?!

Now, if you want your kid to see that, great. More power to you. I am sure he or she will grow up to be something, maybe even President. However, I don't, personally, think you need to have them viewing it, in public, in front of some of the "types" of people that go to these places. However, I am not opposed to it if that is what the parents really want. I merely said that I personally felt it was a bit over the line...

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My wife and I don't have kids, so I should probably disqualify myself from this discussion, but if I did, I'd probably be a lot more concerned about their access to the Internet than a store like that. In the video interview with the owner, she makes a point of saying that they specifically don't display explicit imagery, and I didn't see anything pornographic in the tour of the store.

I haven't seen Flashpoint, but it sounds like we may have to check it out; thanks for the recommendation. :-)

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we have a store like that here, well several really. I can have more fun in those then most anybody if ya know what to do.
Heres how ya go about it........
Nobody wants to stand next to anybody in those places so everybody is on a different wall looking at different stuff, soon as one person moves another takes there place and everybody moves to a new spot but..... not me....I go stand next to everybody and anybody and see what there looking at and pick up something like it and start to compare by looking over at them and even asking them questions about it, this usually embarrasses them or freaks them out LOL try it sometime..... it be funny as hell.

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As fas as making societal comparisons between now and the 1940's, 50's, 60's and 70', during those era's we did not have Gay & Lesbian Day Parades, Gay's trying to force their way into the ST. Patties' Day parade, Nambla was not in existence, and neither was the ACLU fighting for the rights of homosexuals to become Scout Leaders. Sex Ed wasn't on the Elementary School Curriculum, and neither were books like Sally has Two Mommies or Johnny has Two Daddies, also parents would have been shocked to hear that condoms were being provided free of charge to their pre-adolescent teens or that their 13 yr. old daughter had a Planned Parenthood funded abortion without their knowledge or consent! Yes we live in a different world - and I don't agree that sexual promiscuity helps a damned thing, and in fact I believe it hurts. Consenting adults may do whatever they want, just stop assaulting our kids and forcing them to become adults before their time!

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I haven't seen Flashpoint, but it sounds like we may have to check it out; thanks for the recommendation. :-)
We don't have kids either, so maybe my post is meaningless, but we do have 11 nieces and nephews, with another on the way, between us.

Flashpoint, I can assure you, isn't the most purchased title just by chance.

Jenna loves Bella Donna is another GREAT choice.... But, I digress...

I just feel that, even if you cover the fronts of the covers, an "adult entertainment store" makes it's profits on more than the TOP 10 listed movies. There will be "other implements" that are identifiable once a child is able to form a voice and opinion on something.

After all, how many parents have had the situation when a child wanders in, after a shower or while getting dressed, and asks, "What's That?"

Again, if the kids' parents want them to be subjected to that, they should have that right. I would never subject anyone to my beliefs, because I know that I am hypocritical.

However, personally, I think an adult video/book store is a place for us grown ups. I wouldn't want my nieces or nephews in there before they were old enough to understand "Just Anyone" could perform like this... there is maturity that is needed before you are subjected to the fantasy world of porn... After all, not every woman you meet is going to "beg for @nal"

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After all, not every woman you meet is going to "beg for @nal"

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