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Old 06-20-2012, 01:08 AM   #11
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Whatever caused the kidney failure could also have caused seizures or seizure like symptoms. No clue on the cause though.
I'm very lost on this. Ive ruled out food. As jpyle mentioned, I thought maybe someone slipped something into a box of food at the market, but my wife had told me that we've been out of the rat food for a few days and she had been giving the carrots and lettuce for 2 days. They never showed any sign of illness or fatigue. It all happened so fast.


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I'm very lost on this. Ive ruled out food. As jpyle mentioned, I thought maybe someone slipped something into a box of food at the market, but my wife had told me that we've been out of the rat food for a few days and she had been giving the carrots and lettuce for 2 days. They never showed any sign of illness or fatigue. It all happened so fast.
Urban, just a remote possibility, that the lettuce and carrots had some residue of insecticide on them even after washing them that could have been enough over a period of a few days to cause poisoning. a small amount enough to kill the rats would probably have no effect to be noticeable in the size of a person. just a thought. sorry to hear about your pets.


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I would definitely have to lean towards they ingested something.
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I'm very lost on this. Ive ruled out food. As jpyle mentioned, I thought maybe someone slipped something into a box of food at the market, but my wife had told me that we've been out of the rat food for a few days and she had been giving the carrots and lettuce for 2 days. They never showed any sign of illness or fatigue. It all happened so fast.
Too many carrots will tear up a rabbi, not sure about rats.
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Too many carrots will tear up a rabbi, not sure about rats.
What the hell you feeding carrots to a Rabbi for?
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What the hell you feeding carrots to a Rabbi for?
Er, uh, rabbits. Don't drink whisky and type on a dumbphone. They were Jewish rabbits, though. Is there such a thing as kosher rabbits?
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Urban, just a remote possibility, that the lettuce and carrots had some residue of insecticide on them even after washing them that could have been enough over a period of a few days to cause poisoning. a small amount enough to kill the rats would probably have no effect to be noticeable in the size of a person. just a thought. sorry to hear about your pets.
Seems plausible. never thought of that. I am also going to check with my landscaper. They were out the other day, I'm wondering if they sprayed a weed killer or something and my fans brought it in the house.
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Seems plausible. never thought of that. I am also going to check with my landscaper. They were out the other day, I'm wondering if they sprayed a weed killer or something and my fans brought it in the house.
that's possible. the amount that could kill a small animal the size of a rat, would likely have little effect on a human. if that's what did happen, very unfortunate accident and sad it happeded.
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Sorry about your rats man. I once had that happen to my dog. It was a result of my dog getting into what spilled out of a broken lava lamp. I would just check around for any types of spilled chemicals. You could always call a vet and ask what common house hold items could cause something like that.
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Sorry about your rats man. I once had that happen to my dog. It was a result of my dog getting into what spilled out of a broken lava lamp. I would just check around for any types of spilled chemicals. You could always call a vet and ask what common house hold items could cause something like that.
Thank you. The only thing in the form of chemicals or liquid near them would be some RemOil, but its about 6 feet away, and I haven't used it in the last 2-3 weeks. When I do use it, its nowhere near them.

I'm am pretty meticulous about leaving anything toxic around, not just because of the animals but also my 8 year old son. Ive tried to research some of the symptoms they had shown, but it points to multiple things and doesn't explain how both of them went at the same time. I'm just worried about the damn dog now.


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