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Old 01-21-2012, 09:54 PM   #41
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True, but keep in mind how they torture tested the glock. And it just kept saying " Is that all you got?"

Somehow I don't see either the Sig or the Mossberg passing any mil-spec tests. Freeze, bake, throw them of a 30 foot drop, and give them a mud bath. Show me that they are tough and I may be more interested. Looks alone? A solid case of GIGO. Garbage in, Garbage out.
I am not going to defend it yet, just saying give it a chance.
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I cant possibly see the purpose of adding all that .....stuff to a handgun and then expecting it to perform better. It reminds me of the first generation land warrior system, where the geeks at the pentagon thought throwing 15lbs of high tech, sensitive equipment on an AR platform would make sense in the real world.

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Did you not get the memo? Retarded is an offensive term up there with the "N" word.

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ROBOCOP, sometimes you are too funny, friend.

"Cop" is an interesting word, too.

Some English references say it stands for "constable on patrol" while others say it means "copper or grabber."

I prefer "peace officer" which is also ironic, because wherever peace officers need to show up, there is normally very little peace, before, during, or afterwards.
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I cant possibly see the purpose of adding all that .....stuff to a handgun and then expecting it to perform better. It reminds me of the first generation land warrior system, where the geeks at the pentagon thought throwing 15lbs of high tech, sensitive equipment on an AR platform would make sense in the real world.
Actually it does make sense for night ops in a CQB environment, and now known as the M-4.

The smaller high-capacity guns coming out now just speak to the need for smaller and closer CQB environments, and better concealment, for dope deals, home invasions, bank and store robberies.

If nobody can get a job then they need to steal to eat, or sell dope.
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ROBOCOP, sometimes you are too funny, friend.

"Cop" is an interesting word, too.

Some English references say it stands for "constable on patrol" while others say it means "copper or grabber."

I prefer "peace officer" which is also ironic, because wherever peace officers need to show up, there is normally very little peace, before, during, or afterwards.
There may not be much peace when we arrive, but hopefully we can restore some peace before leaving.
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There may not be much peace when we arrive, but hopefully we can restore some peace before leaving.
Sure, when the dust clears.
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Sometimes there is some dust to be cleared, for sure.

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Actually it does make sense for night ops in a CQB environment, and now known as the M-4.

The smaller high-capacity guns coming out now just speak to the need for smaller and closer CQB environments, and better concealment, for dope deals, home invasions, bank and store robberies.

If nobody can get a job then they need to steal to eat, or sell dope.
Im not sure putting a NV or thermal scope on that sig is going to help. Much less be more concealable.... maybe more than a kittycat m4 is. But I still wouldnt want the sig if I had to choose between em. ...especially if i'm robbing a bank...which im not. Not sure what thats all about anyway.
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