Range Politics


Firearm & Gun Forum - FireArmsTalk.com > General Discussion Forums > The Club House > Range Politics

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-24-2010, 08:51 AM   #1
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
zhuk's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Sydney, Aust
Posts: 2,031
Liked 5 Times on 4 Posts

Default Range Politics

Just a bit of a whiny rant...feeling the need to vent so thought I'd inflict on your poor guys


Due to some remarkably infantile range politics, my club has been banned from the pistol range nor can we shoot .22 metallic silhouette...been 3 weeks now and no end in sight as yet. Spurious claims of 'ricochets' were thrown around by some rather usual suspects who have been instrumental in attempting to hamper our use of facilities for a while now...despite the 20-odd years without problem, and no incidents of said 'ricochets' (if there ever were any) proven. Seems like it only applies to us, as another pistol club can use it no problem.

Fortunately! we still have use of the service rifle range, so the usual club rifle comps can go ahead - at least until another stupid claim is made...

Really miss playing with handguns though and the shotgun range has had such a restrictive template imposed (again supposedly due to our 'ricochets') there's very little point in bothering...no one would be able to follow the clays past a couple degrees from vertical.


Have been thinking maybe I should be saving for a bolt action rather than a pistol now! dammit


OK...OK...that felt a little better lol...normal service is now resumed



__________________

Illigitimi Non Carborundum - Don't let the bastards grind you down

Quote:
Originally Posted by skullcrusher View Post
Yes, at WalMart, you can pick up a gun, ammo, ski mask and your antidepressants all in one trip. Darn convenient if you ask me...:D
zhuk is offline  
 
Reply With Quote

Join FirearmsTalk.com Today - It's Free!

Are you a firearms enthusiast? Then we hope you will join the community. You will gain access to post, create threads, private message, upload images, join groups and more.

Firearms Talk is owned and operated by fellow firearms enthusiasts. We strive to offer a non-commercial community to learn and share information.

Join FirearmsTalk.com Today! - Click Here


Old 05-24-2010, 09:46 AM   #2
Retired
FTF_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
danf_fl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: LA (Lower Alabama),FL
Posts: 10,274
Liked 2889 Times on 1667 Posts
Likes Given: 1239

Default

Sounds like another attempt to restrict your freedom of choice more than a safety issue. If one group can remove another that is not well organized, the first group then has acquired the knowledge and bravery to go after a well organized group. IMO, this "...saving for a bolt action rather than a pistol..." appears to me to be a way they are successfully removing handguns.



__________________

Amendment II:
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

Life Member NRA
Life Member NAHC
Former President of the ECPT (Eifel Combat Pistol Team)

danf_fl is online now  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 05-24-2010, 10:15 PM   #3
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
zhuk's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Sydney, Aust
Posts: 2,031
Liked 5 Times on 4 Posts

Default

I know it sounds like it, but this bullsh*t isn't being instigated by the Government; so it's not an underhanded way to remove handguns per se at any official level. But rather a club affliated with the organisation who leases the range from the Commonwealth - an umbrella association which my club is not linked to. Without going into details, its been a long campaign of undermining from these certain elements...and another pistol club hasn't been restricted, so the bias is all too clear.

I just hope we get our range rights back...unfortunately its the same association which has to look into the claims so an impartial, timely decision might be too much to expect

__________________

Illigitimi Non Carborundum - Don't let the bastards grind you down

Quote:
Originally Posted by skullcrusher View Post
Yes, at WalMart, you can pick up a gun, ammo, ski mask and your antidepressants all in one trip. Darn convenient if you ask me...:D
zhuk is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 05-24-2010, 10:54 PM   #4
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
mrm14's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Sacramento, California
Posts: 2,382
Liked 311 Times on 207 Posts
Likes Given: 27

Default

Sounds like to me that the other club is getting larger in members and shooters and want / need more time at your pistol range to accomodate their growth. Possibly they wrote a perverbial check their azz cant cash to their members to accomodate more shooters in their club and they politically "Rat Effed" your club with dirty back door petty politics at your shooting range to get more practice and match time slots there.

Or, possibly your club kicks their clubs azz too much in shooting match and they dont like that. Just guessing here.

Possible idea here. Approach the range management and see if they have enough land to support another pistol range. Your club, if they have the resolve to do so, could put one togeather there for your use.

There are several pistol clubs at the range that I go to and I believe they all mostly have put togeather or made improvements to existing facilities as a group or individually their own areas within the land that the shooting range owns.

__________________
mrm14 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 05-25-2010, 12:16 AM   #5
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
zhuk's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Sydney, Aust
Posts: 2,031
Liked 5 Times on 4 Posts

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mrm14 View Post
Sounds like to me that the other club is getting larger in members and shooters and want / need more time at your pistol range to accomodate their growth. Possibly they wrote a perverbial check their azz cant cash to their members to accomodate more shooters in their club and they politically "Rat Effed" your club with dirty back door petty politics at your shooting range to get more practice and match time slots there.

Or, possibly your club kicks their clubs azz too much in shooting match and they dont like that. Just guessing here.

Possible idea here. Approach the range management and see if they have enough land to support another pistol range. Your club, if they have the resolve to do so, could put one togeather there for your use.

There are several pistol clubs at the range that I go to and I believe they all mostly have put togeather or made improvements to existing facilities as a group or individually their own areas within the land that the shooting range owns.


All good suggestions, mrm. Unfortunately its all bureaucratically horribly complicated!

In fact my club is actually one the largest in membership operating on this particular range (180+ members, even though only a hard core of about 50-60 regularly turn up - and that's sizeable compared to most). Each club has it's own range use decided by the Range User's Committee made up of reps from all clubs, so you can't get extra time or new areas allocated as we can only shoot generally once a week, and there can only be one pistol range allowed on the land (hell we are lucky the Govt gives us that!)

The sticking point is it's all overseen by the primary lessee who in fact control pretty much every centrefire range in the State, as they were given control by the Govt after the army vacated these areas years ago. It is this body who is thwarting us along with a small connected club (who does their dirty work making these spurious 'charges') because they have the ability to throw their weight around.

It really has become a personal crusade on these 'tinpot generals' part...court cases have been pending for a long time, so we'll just have to hold our breath & wait and see. It's just all come to a head recently....and we're getting a bit pissed off now. So hence the rant

(We don't usually compete in inter-club shoots so any sour grapes on that front can be discounted!)


__________________

Illigitimi Non Carborundum - Don't let the bastards grind you down

Quote:
Originally Posted by skullcrusher View Post
Yes, at WalMart, you can pick up a gun, ammo, ski mask and your antidepressants all in one trip. Darn convenient if you ask me...:D
zhuk is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Firearms Forum Replies Last Post
Cow Politics #2 zhuk The Club House 1 03-17-2010 01:58 PM
Yes, they walk among us, are in politics opaww Politics, Religion and Controversy 9 08-21-2009 04:01 PM
Zo Knows Politics gregs887 Politics, Religion and Controversy 2 10-27-2008 11:41 PM