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Old 12-11-2012, 09:47 PM   #18551
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Hooray for Illinois, possibly this is a good start! Now they have 180 days to comply!

Federal Court Strikes down Illinois' total ban on carrying firearms for self-defense outside the home or business
Fairfax, Va. – The United States Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit ruled today that Illinois' total ban on carrying firearms for self-defense outside the home or business is unconstitutional. The case involves lead plaintiff Mary Shepard, an Illinois resident and a trained gun owner, who is licensed to carry a concealed handgun in both Utah and Florida. The National Rifle Association is funding this case. The Illinois State Rifle Association is a co-plaintiff in this case.
“Today’s ruling is a victory for all law abiding citizens in Illinois and gun owners throughout the country,” said Wayne LaPierre, Executive Vice President of NRA. “The court recognized that the text and history of the Second Amendment guarantee individuals the right to carry firearms outside the home for self-defense and other lawful purposes. In light of this ruling, Mary Shepard and the people of Illinois will finally be able to exercise their Second Amendment rights.”
On September 28, 2009, while working as the treasurer of her church, Ms. Shepard and an 83-year-old co-worker were viciously attacked and beaten by a six-foot-three-inch, 245 pound man with a violent past and a criminal record. Ms. Shepard and her co-worker were lucky to survive, as each of them suffered major injuries to the head, neck and upper body. Ms. Shepard's injuries required extensive surgeries and she continues physical therapy to this day attempting to recover from her injuries.
In today’s decision, Judge Richard Posner ruled that Illinois’ ban on carriage is unconstitutional. The Judge went on to say, “One doesn’t have to be a historian to realize that a right to keep and bear arms for personal self-defense in the eighteenth century could not rationally have been limited to the home. . . . Twenty-first century Illinois has no hostile Indians. But a Chicagoan is a good deal more likely to be attacked on a sidewalk than in his apartment on the 35th floor.”
"Today's ruling is a major victory for law-abiding Illinoisans—and for everyone who understands that the Second Amendment protects the right both to keep arms, and to bear arms," added Chris W. Cox, executive director of NRA's Institute for Legislative Action. "This ruling makes clear that Illinois cannot deny law-abiding residents the right to carry a firearm for self-defense outside the home. This is a step in the right direction for all gun owners. We know it probably won’t be the end of this case, and we’re ready to keep fighting until the courts fully protect the entire Second Amendment."
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Unfortunately, they'll just find a way to make it so difficult to get a concealed carry permit that they still aren't really free to exercise their rights. Think: New York and California permitting processes.
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Unfortunately, they'll just find a way to make it so difficult to get a concealed carry permit that they still aren't really free to exercise their rights. Think: New York and California permitting processes.
BUT its a start.
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BUT its a start.
Oh I won't deny that. It's much more than what was allowed before. And with this win, maybe one day they'll be able to fully exercise their human rights in Illinois.
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Unfortunately, they'll just find a way to make it so difficult to get a concealed carry permit that they still aren't really free to exercise their rights. Think: New York and California permitting processes.
Unfortunately, I agree - state will find another way to drag its feet. It's not easy living in a Blue State. We must endeavor to persevere...
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Old 12-11-2012, 10:28 PM   #18556
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Yep, its rough in blue states. I am happy to see this, it may be the beginning of something great, or just another small win that will cause virtual inability to obtain Conceal Carry Permits for those in IL. Whatever the case may be, it is still good news to me, even though I'm in CA.
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Unfortunately, they'll just find a way to make it so difficult to get a concealed carry permit that they still aren't really free to exercise their rights. Think: New York and California permitting processes.
I think the farther you get away from the antigun cities, the better the laws. A lot of Illinois is pro gun, but Chicago writes the laws for the state as a whole. Same with New York and California. A lot of the counties are pro gun, and will issue permits.
It's not a perfect win, but it's a step in the right direction.
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Oh hey , look , a little judge followed me home today . Yes I think I will keep it , yes I am mad they sold me 45acp vrs 45lc and all I have are 3in 410s
Where is that tactical face palm picture again ?
Heres to a good nights sleep , the big judgment day is tomar , I may postpone it till the 22 this month
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Why not the sw governor? Six shots vs five, with a better trigger pull, and American made which supports our economy.
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Oh I won't deny that. It's much more than what was allowed before. And with this win, maybe one day they'll be able to fully exercise their human rights in Illinois.
I got my pocket pistol ready, holster and all.
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