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Old 10-15-2013, 06:01 AM   #3131
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Just curious, what advantage does the 17 hornet have over the old 22 hornet besides a little more velocity? The .22 hornet was a sweet round. Virtually no recoil, beyond accurate (IIRC, it once held a world record for accuracy at 100 yards. I think this was in the 60s), not too loud, and has a decent amount of take down power for the type of game you would hunt with it. .222, .223, .243, .220 Swift, and .22-250, are also good varmint rounds.
I've already got a .243 that I hunt with, I'm just looking for something with even less recoil to also work my girlfriend into centrefire rifles. If I got a .223 I'd try and get the ballistics close to the same as it would be from a 20" AR, but due to restrictions, I'm not really wanting an AR for the time being.....so I'm making things difficult.



At most it would be coyotes and other pest type critters. I'd also be doing a lot if paper punching, thus I'm wanting something I'd be less likely to take hunting.
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I've already got a .243 that I hunt with, I'm just looking for something with even less recoil to also work my girlfriend into centrefire rifles. If I got a .223 I'd try and get the ballistics close to the same as it would be from a 20" AR, but due to restrictions, I'm not really wanting an AR for the time being.....so I'm making things difficult.



At most it would be coyotes and other pest type critters. I'd also be doing a lot if paper punching, thus I'm wanting something I'd be less likely to take hunting.
.22-250 might be a good choice then. Low recoil (about the same as .223), has a longer effective range than .223 (both will shoot accurately out to 300-400 yards, and you probably wouldn't notice much difference between the two.), and is a flat shooter. I don't know much about the gun industry in Canada, so I have no idea if .22-250 is as common up there as it is down here. If not, you could always reload for it.

Like you said, .223 would also work. It just depends on you. If you would eventually like to shoot past 400 yards, then .22-250 might be the better round for that. Both would get the job done.
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.22-250 might be a good choice then. Low recoil (about the same as .223), has a longer effective range than .223 (both will shoot accurately out to 300-400 yards, and you probably wouldn't notice much difference between the two.), and is a flat shooter. I don't know much about the gun industry in Canada, so I have no idea if .22-250 is as common up there as it is down here. If not, you could always reload for it. Like you said, .223 would also work. It just depends on you. If you would eventually like to shoot past 400 yards, then .22-250 might be the better round for that. Both would get the job done.


22-250 is actually a lot easier to come by then .223 is, it's always been the case. Even before the shenanigans down your guys way, I could almost never find any .223 at my local walmart and don't feel the need to drive an hour away just to pick some up. I can get a 40rd value pack for about $20-$30.xx in 55gr HP for the .22-250 just about any day. So guess that's what I'll go with. Regardless of caliber, I'll end up reloading for it, it's just a matter of when I'd be getting set up with the dies and components. Haha


On a curious note, in your own option, what would be your max range for plinking with said round?
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22-250 is actually a lot easier to come by then .223 is, it's always been the case. Even before the shenanigans down your guys way, I could almost never find any .223 at my local walmart and don't feel the need to drive an hour away just to pick some up. I can get a 40rd value pack for about $20-$30.xx in 55gr HP for the .22-250 just about any day. So guess that's what I'll go with. Regardless of caliber, I'll end up reloading for it, it's just a matter of when I'd be getting set up with the dies and components. Haha


On a curious note, in your own option, what would be your max range for plinking with said round?
Max range on .22-250? Depends on you and your rifle. Realistically, about 500-600 yards (you could probably push it a little farther out since you reload). Though, you could possibly manage to get shots on a target at 1000 yards. The wind is going to play hell with your bullet though.
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Max range on .22-250? Depends on you and your rifle. Realistically, about 500-600 yards (you could probably push it a little farther out since you reload). Though, you could possibly manage to get shots on a target at 1000 yards. The wind is going to play hell with your bullet though.

Oh I know the shooter and their equipment will play in on the range, that goes for any caliber, rifle, and shooter combination. I was just looking for an idea of how far a guy could reach out with it. As far as distances I could in theory shoot at, 600 yards would be on the low end, so I'm not worried about running out of space either. Anywhere after that and I'd end up having to hop along with my range finder to get a distance.

Now when it comes to wind, that will be my biggest hurtle since I live in the prairies and there's almost nothing to help slow it. Some days it is pretty still though......other days I might as well be wearing a parachute just to be safe. Haha
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a 220 Swift has less recoil than a 243

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I was thinking the .17 Hornet is less expensive to reload for, it doesn't wear out a barrel as fast, it is quite effective on squirrils and othe small animals. Its an awesome round.

22/250 would be an awesome choice as well, and it has the added advantage of reaching out farther.

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204 Ruger. very, very mild recoil. very accurate. very fast. runs about 3800-4200 FPS depend on the bullet and load. good on paper and good on smaller varmints.

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