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Old 09-22-2011, 01:31 PM   #191
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I was reading a thread on rifles and came across the terms "Tube Mag" and "Box Mag". When I went shooting with Hunter Joe, he let me shoot a shotgun that I believe he said was a "tube mag". Excuse me for not knowing the terms but he opened an area at the base of the barrel and put in, I think, about 6 shotgun shells. I only shot a couple rounds out of it because it hurt my shoulder. Joe tried showing me where to place the butt of the stock on my shoulder and I think I know maybe it would help if I kind of moved with the recoil of the gun. ANYWAY......can someone help me with the terms 'tube mag' and 'box mag'. Thank you. In the meantime I will see what I can find on Google.

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Old 09-22-2011, 03:25 PM   #192
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A tube mag is a magazine shaped like a tube, generally hanging under the barrel, but sometimes inside the butt stock, that holds the ammo end to end. A box magazine is shaped more like a box, under the action and holds the ammo parallel to each other, sort of stacked up. Detachable box magazines such as an AR or AK use are often mistakenly called "clips".

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I could take the tube/box magazine to so many places....

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Good job on the pics Cane. It sucks being technologically maladroit.

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Thank you for the explanation and the pictures.

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I'll be waiting for spittinfires pictures/ explanation!

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Dumb question of the day... What's the difference between .38 and .380?

.38 and .380 are the same number, you could say .38000000 and it would still be the same number

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.38 USUALLY refers to a revolver, such as the .38 Special. Which, by the way, is NOT 38/100ths of an inch- it fires a .357 bullet. .380 usually refers to the .380 ACP cartridge, a short cartridge for an auto pistol. The have no relation to each other than both being fired from a gun. .38 can also mean .38 S&W. .38 Short Colt, .38 Auto, .38 Super, 38-40, .38 Webley, 38 Long Colt, .38 Merwin & Hulbert, .38 Colt New Police, 38-44, or a strange little round from South America called .38 Largo- same size as .38 Special, but a low powered BLACK POWDER cartridge. BTW, MOST of those rounds up there WILL NOT INTERCHANGE.

The European system using bullet/ case length/ rimmed or not is a much more descriptive system. So a 7.62x54R pretty well nails it down- except the Europeans measure bore diameter differently than the US- to us, 7.62 is about .308, to them, about .312.

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.38 USUALLY refers to a revolver, such as the .38 Special. Which, by the way, is NOT 38/100ths of an inch- it fires a .357 bullet. .380 usually refers to the .380 ACP cartridge, a short cartridge for an auto pistol. The have no relation to each other than both being fired from a gun. .38 can also mean .38 S&W. .38 Short Colt, .38 Auto, .38 Super, 38-40, .38 Webley, 38 Long Colt, .38 Merwin & Hulbert, .38 Colt New Police, 38-44, or a strange little round from South America called .38 Largo- same size as .38 Special, but a low powered BLACK POWDER cartridge. BTW, MOST of those rounds up there WILL NOT INTERCHANGE.

The European system using bullet/ case length/ rimmed or not is a much more descriptive system. So a 7.62x54R pretty well nails it down- except the Europeans measure bore diameter differently than the US- to us, 7.62 is about .308, to them, about .312.

Got that? There will be a quiz later.

Just kidding. The naming process can be VERY confusing. Now add in the system of naming older black powder cartridges- and you have a 45-70-405- a 45 caliber rifle bullet, sitting on 70 grains of powder, bullet weighing 405 grains.

Seriously, this is why I keep reference books. It can get REAL confusing.
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