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Old 10-03-2012, 03:46 AM   #6691
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And who slung the rope with the clips spread out like eighteen inches?
Huh?!?? I'm confused by this.
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Not too far from me.

On your previous picture. The wire rope, the clips look to be spread out pretty far. What was it? inch and five eighths right hand hard lay?

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Are you talking about the wire that's on the button fitting? Those are stationary wires that accompany some barges.

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I think our lingo is to different lol.

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Are you talking about the wire that's on the button fitting? Those are stationary wires that accompany some barges.
The terminology may differ. Ive only worked with it round land rigs, and a very short stint on an anchor boat. Never done fresh water stuff.

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Rope


Clip


But yeah, your wire rope round the dognut button. Is it load bearing at all?
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The terminology may differ, but Ive never heard any industry call it different.

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But yeah, your wire rope round the button dognut.
Ah thanks. The wire is 1 1/8. Not real big at all. I don't know who put it on there.
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Next time I use a 6 part I'll try to take a pic. The fin actually floats... It rides in a track in a wall, at a lock. This pin belongs to keokuk Iowa lock number 19. We use them to tie off the boat and barges to lock. Keokuk is normally around a 34-35 foot drop/raise if I'm not mistaken. The 6 parts give it strength.

Reasoning behind that being incorrect line, is that the top two parts, are overlapping the others, and therefore not properly slacked even with the other parts. This causes you to loose the strength of having 6 parts, leaving you with 4 parts instead. Not a weak line still, but 15 barges @ 1500 tons of cargo apiece alone and a boat surging hard into the line, you want 6 parts.

Also if two parts were to break. You would still have 4 parts holding you. Not in this case, and the surge would break a standard two part in a hurry. Making for a dangerous situation when your 30+ feet above the water level below, and 30 feet from hitting the gates.

Here is a picture from the same lock, northbound with 11 barges. The boat is 4 stories tall.....
OK, so the pin/fin floats in a vertical slot in the lock wall as the water rises or falls in the lock. I get it.

Yeah, I'd like to see a proper 6 part. Always like learning new knots.
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OK, so the pin/fin floats in a vertical slot in the lock wall as the water rises or falls in the lock. I get it.

Yeah, I'd like to see a proper 6 part. Always like learning new knots.
Yea the pin floats in a track. It's more so "knotted" on a cavel in an x pattern. I'll try and get you a picture.
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Ah thanks. The wire is 1 1/8. Not real big at all. I don't know who put it on there.
Ok. Was just curious. Do ya know if it is ever used for anything? Inch and an eighth properly slung on a straight leg if its hard lay, ought to be rated for IIRC 16,000. But ya'd need a seven clips evenly spaced at nine inches and properly torqued. Out there we had to deal with the Coast Guard and MMS, even if it was never used for anything other than tying a lanyard to so you don't fall from one deck to another or to stop you from sliding across the deck in bad weather, it had to be properly slung for the ropes SWL.

I don't guess it really matters. It just caught my eye.
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