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Old 04-30-2013, 02:29 AM   #51
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Sooo did you do anything to this before the problem started ? did it come on all of a sudden or gradual over time ?
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Sooo did you do anything to this before the problem started ? did it come on all of a sudden or gradual over time ?
It's been like this for a while but it's slowly been getting worse over time. It's just gotten bad enough that I have to do something about it...I really don't wanna bring it to someone but I know when and if I hit something it'll cost me more anyway lol
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Just a thought. Maybe the hoses on the front brakes have gone soft?
What do you mean by that and how can I tell?
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What do you mean by that and how can I tell?
I was just thinking that possibly one or more of the flexible brake hoses going to the wheel cylinders has deteriorated, allowing them to expand when the brake pedal is pushed. The result would be the same as if there was air in the lines….a soft pedal.

Just a close look might show something not right….maybe cracks in the rubber. Or have someone watch or feel the lines while you jam the brake pedal hard.

Some of your symptoms might exclude this possibility. But like I said…it’s a thought.

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I was just thinking that possibly one or more of the flexible brake hoses going to the wheel cylinders has deteriorated, allowing them to expand when the brake pedal is pushed. The result would be the same as if there was air in the lines….a soft pedal.

Just a close look might show something not right….maybe cracks in the rubber. Or have someone watch or feel the lines while you jam the brake pedal hard.

Some of your symptoms might exclude this possibility. But like I said…it’s a thought.

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Thanks for the input ill definitely check that out today when I get gome
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I was just thinking that possibly one or more of the flexible brake hoses going to the wheel cylinders has deteriorated, allowing them to expand when the brake pedal is pushed. The result would be the same as if there was air in the lines….a soft pedal.

Just a close look might show something not right….maybe cracks in the rubber. Or have someone watch or feel the lines while you jam the brake pedal hard.

Some of your symptoms might exclude this possibility. But like I said…it’s a thought.

Good luck!

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A good thought... Had the same problem with one of my IH's.. If you do replace the brake hoses, DO all of them...

some other things to check... Are your wheel cylinders leaking?

Did you adjust the linkage on the master cylinder when you installed it?

I put a new one in my scout not long ago, I didnt adjust the linkage right and my brakes are soft... (Ive been lazy and havent re-adjusted it yet )
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I was just thinking that possibly one or more of the flexible brake hoses going to the wheel cylinders has deteriorated
Their suppost to be wire mess reinforced to stop that from happening, that's why they charge $25.00 each for one of those hoses. Unless someone just took a regular hose and cut a piece to fit? You should have two lines coming off the master cyclinder, can you clamp them to see if it is the front or back brakes that are causing you problems? On a DRY piece of road can you see any brake fluid leaks on the ground to tell if it a leaking wheel cyclinder and which one? I had a van that started to leak on the brake line going to the back, the actual metal line rusted out causing only half the brake system to work and kept loosing brake fluid that had to be replaced.

You need to identify WHERE the problem is. Generally that can be done by looking for brake fluid on the ground. If no leaks, then your truck is haunted and you need a exorcist or a native american shaman to get the bad spirits out. (LOL)

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Their suppost to be wire mess reinforced to stop that from happening, that's why they charge $25.00 each for one of those hoses. Unless someone just took a regular hose and cut a piece to fit?
All the ones Ive seen on my old cars just have a cloth mesh in them, and can stretch....
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Their suppost to be wire mess reinforced to stop that from happening, that's why they charge $25.00 each for one of those hoses. Unless someone just took a regular hose and cut a piece to fit? You should have two lines coming off the master cyclinder, can you clamp them to see if it is the front or back brakes that are causing you problems? On a DRY piece of road can you see any brake fluid leaks on the ground to tell if it a leaking wheel cyclinder and which one? I had a van that started to leak on the brake line going to the back, the actual metal line rusted out causing only half the brake system to work and kept loosing brake fluid that had to be replaced.

You need to identify WHERE the problem is. Generally that can be done by looking for brake fluid on the ground. If no leaks, then your truck is haunted and you need a exorcist or a native american shaman to get the bad spirits out. (LOL)

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It being haunted is a definite possibility...it leaks oil one day and leaks antifreeze the next...then the brakes go, then it's all normal for a few weeks lol
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Does this have any sort of abs , I would guess no by the pic but hard to tell year. Does it pull one way or the other when you brake ??


First off, look at the firewall around where the brake booster mounts and be sure it isn't cracked. That vintage has a lot of problems with cracks there though it usually affects the manual trans models due to it being closer to the clutch pedal side.

Second make sure all your mechanical stuff is in order, no frozen wheel cylinders, make sure your front pads are not frozen in the mounts ( also very very common ) Take them right out and make sure they can move back and forth freely where the ears slide in the steering knuckle. I have seen many frozen brake parts act like air in a line due to a caliper flexing or a frozen pin.

Look your brake lines over and make sure none have been pinched anywhere so one is restricted.

Look that over and and let us know.
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