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zaitsev44 04-01-2013 10:42 PM

Ok this is RIDICULOUS
 
James Holmes, the Aurora, Colorado movie theater shooter, will still be on trial for another year! Now this man killed 12 people and is guilty but his attorney is trying to keep him off death row! Now this is just plain stupid! Our tax dollars are paying for his jail! It's been almost a year and he should have already been executed! I'm dumbfounded

orangello 04-01-2013 10:44 PM

Relax, even when convicted, he will probably get an automatic appeal and will sit in jail for many years awaiting his sentences big finish. I wish they could put him in general population for a little while, but the prison system would probably be sued.

Vincine 04-01-2013 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by orangello (Post 1199684)
Relax, even when convicted, he will probably get an automatic appeal and will sit in jail for many years awaiting his sentences big finish. I wish they could put him in general population for a little while, but the prison system would probably be sued.

I think they should just release him. . . . But then he might have an accident.

boatme98 04-02-2013 12:20 AM

By the time that waste of oxygen is actually due for execution, he'll be so fat from prison food, he'll be able to sue for a stay because he's too fat to be executed.
And in Co., he'll probably win.

orangello 04-02-2013 12:24 AM

Perhaps this would be a good time for those guys to re-examine their views on ursine incarceration. You know, for rehabilitory purposes. ;)

boatme98 04-02-2013 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by orangello (Post 1199847)
Perhaps this would be a good time for those guys to re-examine their views on ursine incarceration. You know, for rehabilitory purposes. ;)


Are you thinking along the lines of Binks and the gorilla ala Trading Places? :eek:

towboater 04-02-2013 01:21 AM

Should have been hung already. Our justice system really sucks.

F4U 04-02-2013 02:20 AM

I think this is why the death penalty is not the deterrent people think it is. Most of these guys live way longer in prison than they would have on the outside. And then when they do finally do execute them 10 or 12 years after the fact nobody but the victims remember who they are or what they did.

My solution to this is probably something we as a nation are no longer willing to do, but I will throw it out anyhow.

They get one appeal, to make sure everything was done correctly, if there are are significant problems with the trial the sentence is automatically changed to life without parole, pending the investigation of the problems. Then no more than 90 days after the sentencing if the appeal is rejected the criminal is hanged on the public square, every 9th and 10th grader in the county to attend.

This will be judged too harsh by a lot of people and probably be called child abuse too. But I think it would bring back the deterrent factor in the death penalty.

TruggieTex 04-02-2013 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by F4U
I think this is why the death penalty is not the deterrent people think it is. Most of these guys live way longer in prison than they would have on the outside. And then when they do finally do execute them 10 or 12 years after the fact nobody but the victims remember who they are or what they did.

My solution to this is probably something we as a nation are no longer willing to do, but I will throw it out anyhow.

They get one appeal, to make sure everything was done correctly, if there are are significant problems with the trial the sentence is automatically changed to life without parole, pending the investigation of the problems. Then no more than 90 days after the sentencing if the appeal is rejected the criminal is hanged on the public square, every 9th and 10th grader in the county to attend.

This will be judged too harsh by a lot of people and probably be called child abuse too. But I think it would bring back the deterrent factor in the death penalty.

I will take it one step further...
Although a sometime proponent of the death penalty, I also have issues with the state taking what it cannot give back...(lots of recent death and pleaded life sentence over turnings in our.....ambitious State, with DNA evidence proving innocence)...
That being said, the solution to me...what solves jury apathy and coerced conviction as well as lengthy and costly upkeep prior to killing...
12 jurors say yes, voltage flows, done deal....all in the court, at sentencing.
Probably would cut down on TV coverage...not to mention wanton murder and recidivism...

c3shooter 04-02-2013 02:47 AM

C&P Wikipedia

In the United States, prisoners may wait years before execution can be carried out due to the complex, expensive, and time-consuming appeals procedures mandated in the jurisdiction. The time between sentencing and execution has increased relatively steadily between 1977 and 2010, including a 22% jump between 1989 and 1990 and a similar jump between 2008 and 2009. In 2010, a death row inmate waited an average of 178 months (or close to 15 years) between sentencing and execution.[1] Nearly a quarter of deaths on death row in the U.S. are due to natural causes.[2]


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