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Old 05-08-2009, 11:57 PM   #11
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I don't see a thing wrong with it. Bush inherited a sound economy and wrecked it.
Umm, I dont think so. Slick Willie totaled out the economy with the limousine liberal attitude and the everybody needs a house mentality.



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I voted for Obama, as did several of my neighbors, in a State where every county went Republican. I don't agree with his views on everything, but in the greater scheme of things, he offered more of a positive nature than did his opponents.

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Until Obama is voted out of office, he is my - and yours, too - Constitutionally-elected President and Commander-In-Chief,
Agreed. Right, wrong or indifferent, my loyalty is to the President no matter who he is. Disagreement does not equal dissent.
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Agreed. Right, wrong or indifferent, my loyalty is to the President no matter who he is. Disagreement does not equal dissent.
A big +1 on that post.

We are allowed to disagree, but we will always protect the Constitution, and will always follow the lawful orders (i.e not violating the Constitution) of the President, and the officers appointed over us, regardless of who they are.
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Just wave at him each morning as you leave for work you dumb azz! He's the one you're now supporting!

Ask him if you can claim him as a dependent on your 1040?

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Old 05-09-2009, 01:52 AM   #14
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That is a discredited BS attack by people who couldn't get the votes to defeat him legitimately. If there had been any substance to the rumor, the courts would have dealt with it before the election.

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Oh, one more thing. I'm a 51 year old white guy, born and reared in the North Georgia hills. If y'all think that I didn't spend a LOT of time agonizing over casting my vote for a Black man (and it was pretty much a draw up until the day after Palin was named to the Repub ticket), think again. It was by far the hardest choice I ever made in November. The last winning candidate for that office who got my vote was the elder Bush in his one term. The last President I actually liked was Reagan.

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Just wave at him each morning as you leave for work you dumb azz! He's the one you're now supporting!

Ask him if you can claim him as a dependent on your 1040?
LOL!! My neighbor says he telecommutes, but I think he just lays around smoking cigars and mowing the lawn.
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I don't see a thing wrong with it. Bush inherited a sound economy and wrecked it. McCain, for all that I respect him for his war record (he is a genuine hero), would have been more of Bush's failed policies. And frankly, McCain's unhealthy ticker scared the hell out of me, because Ms. I-know-foreign-policy-because-I-can-see-Russia-from-my-State Palin would have ended up President when he kicked off mid-term, and that would have been a disaster of biblical proportions.

Oh, and I have been a proud gun owner and hunter since childhood, but when one casts a vote for President and members of Congress, one better consider ALL the issues, not just a few, or fears of Armageddon, gloom and doom will become a self-fulfilling prophecy. I have always considered myself a moderate Independent, and have steadfastly refused to join either major party.

I voted for Obama, as did several of my neighbors, in a State where every county went Republican. I don't agree with his views on everything, but in the greater scheme of things, he offered more of a positive nature than did his opponents.
Until Obama is voted out of office, he is my - and yours, too - Constitutionally-elected President and Commander-In-Chief, deserving of respect of the American people, and the benefit of the doubt until such time as he screws up badly enough (as did Dubya) to lose that respect.

I listen to NPR, support environmental issues, love to hunt deer, hate tofu, think PETA and HSUS are evil domestic terrorist organizations, support the death penalty where warranted (in fact, a certain senior Senator from Massachusetts has a lot still to answer for), and don't give a rat's tiny arse whether gays and lesbians should get married or not because it doesn't matter. Now go ahead and stereotype that!

Thank you for allowing me to vent. You may now resume acting like Limbaugh.
You are one confused/conflicted dude! Obama's race doesn't bother me one bit - I would have voted for several black Republicans over Obama, and over McCain too. And BTW, because of his disdain of the 2nd Amendment and his "principled" stand on torture when American lives are at stake, he sure as hell isn't MY president, and I sure as **** don't respect or support him! When he comes for your guns, and when this country sustains another attack, I venture you'll feel the same!
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You do realize that our civil rights were assaulted and violated more under Bush and Cheney's 8 year reign of abuses than under Clinton's tenure? And no, I did not vote for Clinton either. In fact, if Hillary had gotten the Dem nomination, or had been chosen as the VP candidate, I would've voted for a third party, maybe even for McCain/Palin (shudder!), because I despise Hillary so much.
Do I worry about Gun control? I'd be foolish not to. But any president is limited as to how much damage they can do without the support of a majority of Congress and the Senate, and the NRA has entirely too much control over campaign contributions for too many lawmakers for a broad gun ban or severe restrictions to ever pass.

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You do realize that our civil rights were assaulted and violated more under Bush and Cheney's 8 year reign of abuses than under Clinton's tenure?
My civil rights never even blinked. True, his invasive Partiot Act was a real blow, but at least he didn't publicly disgrace the office, lie under oath, sell our missile guidance technology to the Chinese for DNC contributions, rent out the Lincoln bedroom to derelicts, let Bin Laden go on three separate occasions, or bury a foreign national in Arlington Cemetary (who was a big contributor, and who was later exhumed after it was publicized)...to name a few.

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And no, I did not vote for Clinton either. In fact, if Hillary had gotten the Dem nomination, or had been chosen as the VP candidate, I would've voted for a third party, maybe even for McCain/Palin (shudder!), because I despise Hillary so much.
Do I worry about Gun control? I'd be foolish not to. But any president is limited as to how much damage they can do without the support of a majority of Congress and the Senate, and the NRA has entirely too much control over campaign contributions for too many lawmakers for a broad gun ban or severe restrictions to ever pass.
Wrong on that assumption also! Obama and his band of happy Liberal gun-banners are going to appoint at least two Supreme Court Judges within the next 4 years - do you think he'll appoint Wayne Lapierre? Also, having complete control of the house and senate, his anti-gun legislation is being proposed as we speak - not specifically by him, because it would be political suicide for him to do so if he wishes to win a 2nd term (gagh), but by his loyal followers in state's across the country. If you were a member of the NRA you would be getting the NRA/ILA alerts like I do. Incidentally, fear of the NRA is waning, and as Liberals ALWAYS do, their arrogance will prevail over common sense, so yes, there will be another AWB coming shortly.
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Until Obama is voted out of office, he is my - and yours, too - Constitutionally-elected President and Commander-In-Chief, deserving of respect of the American people, and the benefit of the doubt until such time as he screws up badly enough (as did Dubya) to lose that respect.
Why shouldn't I hold his feet to the fire now? After all, that is the whole point of making this system of government work! You can't let up on these people now and then wait until they screw up to start complaining. You have to be critical of them from the get-go or otherwise nothing will ever get accomplished.

Besides, I refuse to respect a man who in kind shows little respect towards the American people, all the while to shoving socialism down everybody's throat, and is constantly catering to his far-left constituency on policies. When the man stops acting like the government knows best, and stops treating the American people like children will he gain even a shred of respect from me.
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