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Old 08-19-2013, 04:11 AM   #21
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The problem with the hang up and drive laws around here is that most of the biggest offenders are the local LEOs. Drives me nuts. If we can be ticketed, fined a minimum of $150, and wind up with 5 points on a first offense, because it is unsafe, why are so many LEOs doing it as well. Talk about do what I say, not what I do. Don't get me started on how many of them have pulled me over for no seat belt while not wearing theirs!

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I don't talk on my phone when driving, I just can't do it. I agree people on phones are dangerous drivers, but do we really need the gubment to legislate every behavior? Don't we already have laws about failure to maintain controll/reckless driving? And don't get me wrong, if you have a wreck because you were on a phone or distracted, you should be punished.

But, passing a law punishing someone for having the 'potential' to hurt or be a danger is not right. In a way, it is similar to some of the anti gun people. Need to get rid of guns because of the potential. And CCL will make the US like the Wild West, shootouts every day...

Don't mean to be argumentative, but you can't legislate common sense.

Well Fred maybe you haven't been crippled by one of these dumbasses on their phones, yet. I was and I have to live with that everyday. She doesn't even remember me. What's more, I was her third victim that month.
Why was/is she still allowed to drive? Doing foolish things with guns is punishable, why shouldn't doing foolish things with cars be punishable?
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The laws here in CA are only marginally effective. Every single day I see dozens of violators when I am out and about.

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it's a very serious problem that needs to be enforced. another sad thing i have seen is many LEO's doing it as well. how can they enforce laws that put lives in danger when they themselves are doing the same thing? it sets a bad example.

What kills me about LEO's doing it, is they claim they are justified because its in relation to their duties! If its so important why can't they just use a head set like they are citing us for not using?

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Ride a motorcycle. People are scary enough without the added distraction of a phone.
IMHO, the scariest thing on the road is a woman in a Tahoe with the cutesy stick figure family decal on the back, blathering into her phone.
I hate those stick figure stickers. In fact, my wife and I hate them so much, she found a "grumpy cat" that has the quote: "Your stick figure family. I hate them."
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I hate those stick figure stickers. In fact, my wife and I hate them so much, she found a "grumpy cat" that has the quote: "Your stick figure family. I hate them."
My wife found one that says"My Bulldog will eat your Stick family"....
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Weve had distracted driver laws on the books forever, no new law was needed if they would have just enforced the laws we had. Its a money grab for PD's and Insurance Companies, thats all, nothing else.

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Weve had distracted driver laws on the books forever, no new law was needed if they would have just enforced the laws we had. Its a money grab for PD's and Insurance Companies, thats all, nothing else.
Coming from Downstate NY where it's strongly enforced, to Here in Az., where it is not,..lots of folks here think it's needed and i tend to agree...
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I hate to see LEO yakking on the damn cell phone running plates on the laptop and driving 10mph above the speed limit.

After a lengthy talk about the subject of seatbelts and LEO's. I can see their point. They need to be able to exit their vehicle at any time and take cover and return fire. That second to undo the seat belt can mean life or death. Most of the LEO's I know don't wear a seat belt while on patrol. If they get a call to assist or respond to an accident or a High Speed chase then the belt comes on.

To add another one. The LOUD TALKER in a restaurant. Or the family sitting down to eat and everyone pulls out their phone and no one says a word they are just typing away to other people. It is sad to see that, I liked to sit down to a meal and talk about the day everyone had. Kind of like the Robertson's on Duck Dynasty. That meal at the end is what its all about. Though it surprises me to see Ms Kay allowing hats at the table. My grandma would have slapped the piss right out of you for putting a hat on at her table.

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A couple months ago, I saw a young lady texting on her phone in the lane next to me. I blew my horn and she ran off the road and hit a light pole.

A couple members here tried to crucify me for that. Others stuck up for my actions, and quite vehemently too.

It's not like it was my intent to make her wreck. I was trying to call her attention back to where it belongs: the road. I will say I did keep driving. It wouldn't have been feasible to jump across traffic and give assistance even had I wanted to, and honestly, I didn't want to.

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