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downsouth 12-14-2011 02:52 AM

Mandatory reporting of suspected child neglect or abuse
 
In commitee, S1877
Requires all adults to report suspected child abuse or neglect under penalty of law. Not just people who are trained in the matter, teachers, doctors first responders, but ALL ADULTS. So if little johnny throws a fit in walmart and you disipline him becareful. Or if you see little johnny get swatted on the behind and don't report it you may fall under the new law for noncompliance. I have no tolorence for anybody who mistreats kids but I don't think this is a good idea.

trip286 12-14-2011 03:28 AM

Wait, so theoretically, if I whoop my kid's @$$, which he seriously needs from time to time, and my neighbors know about it but don't report it, they could be prosecuted too? That's a load of bravo sierra.

ScottA 12-14-2011 03:41 AM

If I find out someone is abusing a child, I'll report them in a heartbeat; but these kind of laws should only apply to professionals.

trip286 12-14-2011 03:49 AM

It should just fall on any upstanding person who sees a child with two black eyes, instead it makes it against the law for us to mind our own business.

Downsouth, do you have a link?

trip286 12-14-2011 04:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pieman

Spanking is legal. Child discipline is allowed to a degree. Damn good thing too!

It depends on who is doing the reporting. I've had people threaten to report me for spanking my kid. And the cold hard truth is, any accusation, no matter how unfounded, is investigated and causes undue hardship on the accused.

All it takes is for someone to use the word "abuse". By the way, my experience in this comes from trying to help my neighbor out with that type of situation, so my word doesn't carry the weight of law.

Jeepergeo 12-14-2011 03:09 PM

They want to expand this responsibility to everyone because the tax takers with the responsibility already (schools, teachers, social workers) have failed miserably to do their jobs.

It will be really tough to enforce, but such a law would allow society to go after people like the wife of Sandusky who probably knew what was going on in between Sandusky and those kids in the basement of her home.

trip286 12-14-2011 03:32 PM

Ah, point taken. They should both be hung.

dmp 12-14-2011 03:43 PM

A kid throwing a tantrum is a better-indicator of 'abuse' or 'neglect'. Kids who have discipline problems often have parents who don't love them enough to set boundaries; nor take their jobs as parents seriously.

PanBaccha 12-14-2011 03:50 PM

There is a world of difference in 'abusing' a child, and in 'disciplining' the same.

trip286 12-14-2011 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmp
A kid throwing a tantrum is a better-indicator of 'abuse' or 'neglect'. Kids who have discipline problems often have parents who don't love them enough to set boundaries; nor take their jobs as parents seriously.

How many kids do you have?
I only ask because I love my kid, I spend time with my kid, set boundaries, and I discipline him anytime he needs it. My mom did the same to me.

Now I as a child, and my son too, have both been known to lose our cool and throw a total fit on occasions (he got a belt last night for said behavior, because he started screaming at me that he didn't want to do his homework)

Does that indicate to you that me or my kid have been abused?

That would be funny, considering the awards he gets in school, and the father of the year awards I got for our involvement in the community and his involvement in school functions. I know that's not what make a good parent, but I don't see an abusive parent taking the time to get to that point.

And I'll tell any one, my mom was not abusive, even if I did lose my sh! T on several occasions as a kid.


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