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janikphoto 01-12-2010 08:26 PM

level 1 vest?
 
Is it even worth wearing a level 1 bulletproof vest, if it only stops the maximum of a .380 round? I would think you'd spend twice the money and get a level 2 vest, right? Is this why level 1 is no longer even in the classification system?

Now, I would assume that any vest is better than NO vest, so a level 1 still has SOME value, right? Just wondering, because I've seen brand new, unissued level 1 vests sold as "collectibles" now, but not as actual vests. And they are cheap!

canebrake 01-12-2010 08:35 PM

You need a chicken vest?

Usually they are service issued??

(Or are you one of those Bad Guys?)

janikphoto 01-12-2010 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by canebrake (Post 211854)
You need a chicken vest?

Usually they are service issued??

(Or are you one of those Bad Guys?)

What kind of talk is that?!? My job has me carrying expensive equipment, late at night, in the city by myself. What is wrong with researching a little protection? I value my life and want to be here to see my three baby boys grow up and have families of their own.

I know we joke around a lot here on this forum, but I was looking for real answers. I can't afford a level 2 vest, but several brand new level 1's are offered cheap.

orangello 01-12-2010 09:10 PM

If that was my situation and a light-duty vest was the best i could afford, i'd be asking about adding metal plates to the center-of-mass areas of the vest. I don't know if that is safe/smart, but that is what i'd have on my mind.

janikphoto 01-12-2010 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orangello (Post 211875)
If that was my situation and a light-duty vest was the best i could afford, i'd be asking about adding metal plates to the center-of-mass areas of the vest. I don't know if that is safe/smart, but that is what i'd have on my mind.

I'm probably better off saving up for a level 2 vest. I've made it five years with only minor issues, so hopefully it will stay that way.

failure_drill 01-12-2010 09:17 PM

iba with sapi plates.weighs a ton but worth it...if u can buy em as a civi

canebrake 01-12-2010 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by janikphoto (Post 211855)
What kind of talk is that?!? My job has me carrying expensive equipment, late at night, in the city by myself. What is wrong with researching a little protection? I value my life and want to be here to see my three baby boys grow up and have families of their own.

I know we joke around a lot here on this forum, but I was looking for real answers. I can't afford a level 2 vest, but several brand new level 1's are offered cheap.

I'll tell you what kind of talk that is;

If you think you need a bullet-proof vest you have two choices.
  1. Take a loan out and buy the best you can!
  2. Quit your job and stay home with your baby boys.

Why would you even contemplate taking a knife to a gun fight??? <<Real answer right there!

tristan 01-13-2010 12:05 AM

i would get a level 2a its widley used and stops most rounds. You can find them forpretty cheap $300 to $400. where your price goes up a ton is for comfort you pay alot for flexability and comfort.

c3shooter 01-13-2010 12:35 AM

A word of caution on old vests. You know those things have a life span? Protection degrades as the fiber ages. I was involved with law enforcement in Colorado- when the vests for our LEOs hit the ex. date, we actually donated them to the Indian nation police officers on the reservations. They KNEW that they were at the end of their service life- but they had NOTHING- and felt something was better than nothing. Or in a pinch, doubled them up. But a level 1 that has degraded from age.........

janikphoto 01-13-2010 04:51 AM

I hear what everyone is saying and appreciate the advice. Civilians can still get a 2 and 2a vest, unless things have changed since Obama took office. I will probably save up for one.

I am a newspaper photographer, carrying about five grand in camera equip with me. I specialize in nightlife and music photography, so I spend a lot of time in clubs and bars in the city, late at night. The Texas CCP won't allow me to carry into these places, since they sell alcohol, so I'm defenseless back and forth from my car. I've been thinking about a vest for a long time, and these caught my eye, until I read the poor coverage that a class 1 gives:

New German Military Police Vest, Khaki, Military Surplus, Brand Not Specified, New Never Issued German Military Surplus Police Vest Ballistic Body Armor Protection Safety Class 1 Level Second Chance at Sportsman's Guide

$89 with my SG discount is something I can afford. The $300 that I remember a class 2 vest being at a gun show last year is too much. Thanks for your input. I'll start saving for a good vest.


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