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Old 03-12-2013, 12:16 AM   #11
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Someone should take a desktop calculator and beat some sense into him!
Back in the mid 1990's when i took a job at the Tax Commission, the cool old guy who met me at the main office and directed me through processing (badge, ID, etc.) handed me a 10 key adding machine as i was about to leave. I looked at it and at the laptop computer in its huge case and back at him rather confused; he said that he didn't know if we still used them for anything, but i should take one anyway. Thing never saw its first EOY inventory; i passed it off to somebody who couldn't use a spreadsheet as well as a 10 key.

Mine is the only desk in my current office without a 10 key calculator. My father on the other hand still has a computator on his side table for looks and no computer in his office.
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Is a computator the one with a column of numbers for each digit and a hand crank?

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A .40 cal round weighs on average 253 gr with a 180 gr bullet. 28 rounds weighs approximenty 1 lb. and a surplus ammo can will hold 1,000 rounds or 38.7 lbs of ammo. I do also know that the combined weight of 32,000 rounds of handgun and rifle ammo plus the weight of the ammo cans and pallet weighs in excess of 1455 lbs.

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30K rounds per gun...

Don't have anywhere near that amount... but I DO have enough to GUARANTEE that I'm more trouble than I'm worth!

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that's my thought process as well. 1,000 rounds per caliber. if SHTF, I have the ability to carry a couple hundred on my person of primary and about 100 rounds of handgun.

In my opinion, that's more than enough for your average gunfight. I can resupply later, either from my "home station" or by looting bodies of the dead.

if SHTF I do NOT want to make a Waco stand in my home. We all know how that worked out for them. I want to be light, mobile, and have a small logistical footprint. I'm headed to the woods, and plan to live off the land, and avoid as many people as possible, NOT go walking the streets of the cities looking for a fight. (that's assuming some type of economical collapse. if we go martial law and have another revolution...that's a different story)...

haha.
Wow, did you transcribe this!? LOL

Some adult language...

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Cool vid but the characters switched at one point: "i want a bug out bag" went from piggie to bunny and vice versa.

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Is a computator the one with a column of numbers for each digit and a hand crank?
Yup, though some were electrically cranked; they were mechanical calculators.



On the ammo & mags: I aim for 1000 rounds for each firearm, but i am short on some. There are ten or twelve mags loaded with my two primary HD/SHTF pistols and at least three loaded mags for the rest of the semiauto pistols. I only have a half dozen loaded for the SKS, but i feel safe knowing it is bayonet-equipped. (i can't get the bunny's voice out of my head, oh dear)
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I would have to hope he misspoke, and meant 3K. I only say this because 5 mags is perfectly reasonable (I would prefer 10), so why THIRTY THOUSAND rounds?

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30,000 rds per gun? WHAT AN IDIOT!

For 5.56, at recent prices, that is on the order of $25,000-$30,000 for AMMO.
And if he paid $0.25 per rnd, is he an idiot?

I must look pretty stupid!
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And doesn't it also depend somewhat on how many guns he has, and what caliber maybe even?

If he has just one 5.56, and a few spare parts, is 30,000 rounds "too many"? What if he's Class 3? What if he has one really good .22 LR -- is six cases too many!?

I do think that there are diminishing returns as the number of guns goes up...

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A .40 cal round weighs on average 253 gr with a 180 gr bullet. 28 rounds weighs approximenty 1 lb. and a surplus ammo can will hold 1,000 rounds or 38.7 lbs of ammo. I do also know that the combined weight of 32,000 rounds of handgun and rifle ammo plus the weight of the ammo cans and pallet weighs in excess of 1455 lbs.
Maybe his bug out vehicle is a deuce and a half.
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