[partdeux]

Originally Posted by ScottA

I always said there were two difficult aspects of learning to fly:

I would add a 3rd, knowing when not to fly.

[readygirl]

Originally Posted by Vikingdad

I bet it impressed them even more if he didn't show up in a van with purple deep pile shag carpeting on all interior surfaces, that and the big peace sign painted on the sides.

Kind of difficult for the pilot to screw in a Cessna 110.

LOL.... Yea, just ask JFK jr, he had his wife, and her freaky sister with him when he crashed into the ocean, they said he was not able to see the horizon, and he was not instrument rated, but come on..... A 5yr old could read an altimeter. He was in a pile with them sisters, and forgot to fly the plane.....

[Vikingdad]

Originally Posted by readygirl

LOL.... Yea, just ask JFK jr, he had his wife, and her freaky sister with him when he crashed into the ocean, they said he was not able to see the horizon, and he was not instrument rated, but come on..... A 5yr old could read an altimeter. He was in a pile with them sisters, and forgot to fly the plane.....

As titillating as that scenario might sound it is incredibly difficult to fly in zero visibility if you are not instrument rated. I am not a pilot but I have flown small planes (with a pilot sitting in the left hand seat), it is very easy to become disoriented when visibility goes to zero, which was the case with JFK Jr.

In either scenario, what a way to go!

[readygirl]

Originally Posted by Vikingdad

As titillating as that scenario might sound it is incredibly difficult to fly in zero visibility if you are not instrument rated. I am not a pilot but I have flown small planes (with a pilot sitting in the left hand seat), it is very easy to become disoriented when visibility goes to zero, which was the case with JFK Jr.

In either scenario, what a way to go!

My dad has his license, been up in single engines many,many times. Pre-flight, takeoffs, landings, take some knowledge, skill, and attention to detail. Once the plane is in the air, any tard can fly it. You have 2 guages to watch, airspeed indicator, and altimiter {artificial horizon} Have you ever been in the middle of getting a bj while driving on the highway ?... and realized you are going 20mph... ? Imagine trying to fly a plane, thats what happened to him, Let me explian it to you, to get an erection, the penis must fill up with blood, that blood must come from somewhere, there is no "extra" blood, so where do you think it comes from ? Gravity is in play here, it comes from the highest point, which would be the brain, so while he was playing "hide the sausage" with the girls, his brain was starved for blood. Airspeed dropped too low to keep the plane in the air, by the time he realized it, he was not skilled enough re-gain control. FAA reports said the plane hit the water in a flat spin, which would be indicative of the scenario i have described.

[Vikingdad]

Originally Posted by readygirl

My dad has his license, been up in single engines many,many times. Pre-flight, takeoffs, landings, take some knowledge, skill, and attention to detail. Once the plane is in the air, any tard can fly it. You have 2 guages to watch, airspeed indicator, and altimiter {artificial horizon} Have you ever been in the middle of getting a bj while driving on the highway ?... and realized you are going 20mph... ? Imagine trying to fly a plane, thats what happened to him, Let me explian it to you, to get an erection, the penis must fill up with blood, that blood must come from somewhere, there is no "extra" blood, so where do you think it comes from ? Gravity is in play here, it comes from the highest point, which would be the brain, so while he was playing "hide the sausage" with the girls, his brain was starved for blood.

OK, I think I'm gonna pull out of this one. No offense meant nor taken.

[readygirl]

Originally Posted by Vikingdad

As titillating as that scenario might sound it is incredibly difficult to fly in zero visibility if you are not instrument rated. I am not a pilot but I have flown small planes (with a pilot sitting in the left hand seat), it is very easy to become disoriented when visibility goes to zero, which was the case with JFK Jr.

In either scenario, what a way to go!

LOL.... I agree he was probably "disoriented" , and visibility IS at zero when motorboating a set of 40s.

[goretro77]

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Working on them is a given:


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[ScottA]

Originally Posted by readygirl

LOL.... Yea, just ask JFK jr, he had his wife, and her freaky sister with him when he crashed into the ocean, they said he was not able to see the horizon, and he was not instrument rated, but come on..... A 5yr old could read an altimeter. He was in a pile with them sisters, and forgot to fly the plane.....

Believe me... you have no idea how disorienting it can be flying over water, in hazy conditions, at night. Been there, done that. There is nothing in your vision which gives you an indication of what is up or down, and when that happens, your brain will just start making stuff up.

A couple years ago I was up with my instructor doing some mock instrument work. We were climbing straight ahead, but as soon as we entered the cloud and everything went gray, my brain determined we were actually making a climbing right hand turn.

If someone is not used to flying on instruments, which JFK Jr was not, those conditions are absolutely deadly.

[partdeux]

Originally Posted by ScottA

Believe me... you have no idea how disorienting it can be flying over water, in hazy conditions, at night. Been there, done that. There is nothing in your vision which gives you an indication of what is up or down, and when that happens, your brain will just start making stuff up.

A couple years ago I was up with my instructor doing some mock instrument work. We were climbing straight ahead, but as soon as we entered the cloud and everything went gray, my brain determined we were actually making a climbing right hand turn.

If someone is not used to flying on instruments, which JFK Jr was not, those conditions are absolutely deadly.

I was in severe clear over Lake MI, essentially day dreaming when suddenly the airplane hit a small section of clear air turbulence and brought me back to RW. I had to fight my physical feelings to get the plane back on course and straight and level.

the technical aspect of IFR flying is relatively easy, the emotional side of ignoring feelings and using the instruments to cross check is the more difficult side.

Think I mentioned it before, but when I was extremely current, my flying was "tight", as financial conditions made it more difficult to get up, I noticed a sloppiness building up to the point where ILS approaches looked like a road course. That was why I have not gone back and even rented a plane.

[ScottA]

Originally Posted by partdeux

I was in severe clear over Lake MI, essentially day dreaming when suddenly the airplane hit a small section of clear air turbulence and brought me back to RW. I had to fight my physical feelings to get the plane back on course and straight and level.

the technical aspect of IFR flying is relatively easy, the emotional side of ignoring feelings and using the instruments to cross check is the more difficult side.

Think I mentioned it before, but when I was extremely current, my flying was "tight", as financial conditions made it more difficult to get up, I noticed a sloppiness building up to the point where ILS approaches looked like a road course. That was why I have not gone back and even rented a plane.

I hear ya.